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welcome to the show I'm your host

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Bernadette tonight we have Steve

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Stockton on our show and it's going to

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be a great time like always I want to

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welcome you to the show if you're new

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and if you're returning welcome back I

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can already see we have a bunch of

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familiar faces in the chat so it's going

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to be a great night so let's just get

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Steve in here and get started how about

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hey Steve hey there how you doing

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Bernadette good

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I'm sorry I'm doing great good to see

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you yeah this we had this plan for a

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while I'm sorry we're doing something

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weird no it's okay you look good oh

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thank you so have you been what's new oh

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well I've got a new channel among the

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missing that's my missing persons

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Channel I'm in the chat as that but um I

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parted ways with the channel That I Used

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to Be with without on my own and started

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this one there she is in the chat

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Midnight Society that's my lovely bride

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to be I was just telling Bernadette All

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About You backstage

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but um

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I just kind of struck out on my own uh

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just things didn't didn't go as planned

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over there and I'm enjoying my autonomy

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uh about six weeks in I just passed 61

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000 subscribers today so I've got a huge

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fan base huge following I love every one

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of them and uh it's it's nice to be

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doing my own thing and like I said have

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that autonomy I answer to God uh missing

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people in my audience and and there you

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go and of course Midnight Society she's

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up there just below God

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well congratulations on new channel like

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it didn't happen too and you're you're

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something that you were telling me about

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is that public knowledge I think I saw

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it on Facebook yes yes she's expecting

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folks congratulations now is this your

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first one or do you have more kids no

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it's my second it's my second yeah so

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yeah now that I've gotten over being

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very sick yeah I was very sick in the

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beginning that a few shows I had to

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cancel and yeah

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morning sickness and all that good stuff

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it it it's not as fun as they make it

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out to be a trust me it's not I didn't

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have it with the first one but this one

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it's giving me a run for my money so

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yeah watch out for that one it's like

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four years apart that that's a good

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spicing there then

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yeah the little one's got a big brother

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Milo's yeah well that's good yeah yeah

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sometimes there's a little jealousy

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there when when you've got one another

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one comes along that I wouldn't know but

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that's what I hear I was racism

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only brother was 17 years older than me

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I was a late Life Unexpected baby so by

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grown married moved out and had his own

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kids I was an uncle the time I was four

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actual brother seemed more like an uncle

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or something but uh we we got a lot

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closer later in life after my parents

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middle I was raised as an elderly so

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yeah that was me and then now that I

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Midnight Society she was raises and only

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two or she wasn't only so we have so

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much in common I always just kind of

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exactly lived on 26 and a half acres out

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Witchcraft and with Lauren survival

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entire Mountain up where we live because

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way I was uh out of that 26 and a half

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acres only about five of it was cleared

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lake which is about 100 yards away so it

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was an idyllic place to grow up and just

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call me in love with the outdoors that I

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that understanding that there's there's

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things out there sometimes

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yeah no I I totally agree with you

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before we continue I forgot to mention

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if you guys have questions for Steve you

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can go ahead put them up we'll get to

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them towards the middle or end of the

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show so I will be watching just in case

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you guys have questions make sure

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they're in caps as well

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um so your new channel among the missing

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is if you're continuing your work yeah

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I'm still about the missing people

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that's just something that's been laid

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on my heart to do and uh I mean you

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especially as a parent if you had a

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child that went missing how awful that

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is my daughter was missing for about 20

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minutes once when she was little and

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that's just the most empty Hollow

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gut-wrenching feeling

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and then I can't imagine I mean anytime

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a parent outlives a child it's a tragedy

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for that child to go missing and maybe

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never be found you don't have any

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closure you don't know you can't even

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start the grieving process it's just

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was the first one that I was ever

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exposed to happened in my hometown uh

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Dennis was just a few months older than

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me I was so if I'm going on sexy to six

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going on seven and you know I've watched

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1969 and it just it was a real loss of

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instance for me that you know a child

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about the my age could just go missing

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and never be found and I've got

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somewhere two scrapbooks full of

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clippings from that case where I

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followed it and I thought every day you

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know he'll be found today he'll be found

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today and uh it's 50 something years now

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and he still hasn't been found

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no choice that's heartbreaking yeah it

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is and uh I met his dad and just he was

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a broken man he passed away I believe

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2015 on my birthday Halloween no less

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um just they never had that closure I

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stations there in Knoxville Tennessee

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I think it's the 40th anniversary of

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Dennis's disappearance

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and uh he said you know he always

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handsome man standing there and said yes

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dentist I've come home and what do you

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uh and that sadly never happened I hope

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he has closure in the afterlife

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I think you're trying to make me cry

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Steve don't do that I'm not crying here

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crying

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but I've told that story before and

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actually had tears and and it's the same

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with some of these cases when I record

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them particularly the children uh I have

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to like stop and walk away because it

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upsets me so bad and the children in

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particular uh their their little faces

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haunt me in my dreams and stuff I've

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dreamed about Dennis Martin I dreamed

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about Chiron Horman I've dreamed about

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uh Dior Coons all these kids that just

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they can't be accounted for it's it's a

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tragedy

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I've never lost my child but I've lost

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because we have some like shrubs that's

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bad and that's all it takes exactly a

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few seconds he doesn't answer

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person and he's looking right here I'm

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called you you need to answer me and

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it's just I can imagine losing your

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child yeah my daughter she was about

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three yeah and it was at a playground in

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Oak Ridge that uh had been old school

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had been there and they had torn the

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school down and made a big playground

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and it uh backed up to the Grain Belt

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which was big natural property there

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didn't have anything built in it but

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there's hiking trails in there

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and uh just suddenly she wasn't there

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and I took off down to the green belt

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and there are people hiking down there

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well her mother had stayed there where

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we were at it turned out they had some

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tractor tires half buried in a little

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curvy thing for kids to crawl through

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and she was hiding in there and she

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could hear us yelling for her she

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thought it was funny she thought it was

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just the greatest prank ever to hide but

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uh it was awful for that 20 minutes it

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was the worst 20 minutes of my life

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like it's it's not funny it may be funny

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to you but it's not funny yeah she

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thought she thought it was funny at the

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time but she got a good talking too and

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explained to her you know how

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bad feeling that would be

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to not be able to find it

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oh my goodness and you also haven't

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besides among the missing you have a

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true crime channel that you've come out

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with yeah that one's just in the works

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it's called True Crime breakdown uh

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We've made one video so far and it's not

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even on the channel yet I premiered it

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on among the missing because it was

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about Israel Keys the serial killer and

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there it ties in with the missing

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there's some of his victims that have

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never been found

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uh so

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I think it's the color family or the a

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couple in Vermont that he murdered and

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he never did tell where the bodies were

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so there's a tie in there but uh what

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we're doing with that we're taking some

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of these cases and doing a deep dive

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into them I have Mr E joining me he's

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clinical psychologist

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a very good pedigree and he goes into

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like a clinical analysis of these people

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and and what makes them tick so it's a

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little different than in other True

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Crime shows but uh just another one of

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I'm excited for it because I love True

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Crime so yeah what are you are you

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following any True Crime case right now

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or are you just you're just looking well

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I just I look at everything that comes

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across I've subscribed to a lot of news

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feeds and I get notifications and stuff

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so watching things and there's just

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there's so many out there and uh I

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covered uh a lot of the cases of uh

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apparently serial killers on the

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Appalachian Trail and and other places

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like that Interstate national parks it's

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like it's a hunting ground for some of

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yeah the two I'm following now is the

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one in Iowa I think is the same Stephen

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lace fancy case yeah where she had

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murdered her three children

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and she had then tried to

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get rid of herself and she's in the

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hospital and like yeah it was just a

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mess but they're saying it was

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postpartum

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this part of psychosis that's what they

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were trying to say

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um what was the name again I had

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somebody send me one today that they

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thought I needed to follow

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and it was uh I believe Lynn's plans

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okay you know this one lady named

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Shannon white female yeah Lindsay Clancy

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45 years old uh 5.6 thin bill blue eyes

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and brown hair

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voluntarily missing that's always

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worrisome they think she just wandered

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off and uh in the area where she is

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missing though they find a lot of people

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in the Eagle River so I'm kind of

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yeah

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hospital because I think she broke her

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back and she can't walk and they have

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her slightly sedated but she had said it

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was uh they're saying it's postpartum

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uh psychosis but she she had planned it

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she had sent her husband on a wild goose

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chase for less for the kids and then

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sent him a few miles away further for

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takeout some place they never hardly get

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from it's like you know and she had

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timed it on her phone like how long it

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was going to take him to go to these

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places and then get home

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terrible so it's just yeah so her next

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try her next uh trial update is going to

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be in May and I'm I'm watching that

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because that's yeah I'll have to check

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that one out we may be able to make some

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commentary on that

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but uh we're trying to avoid cases that

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have been done to death like the Ted

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Bundys and the Jeffrey dahmers

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everybody's pretty much covered those so

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uh I've heard Israel Keys called the the

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worst serial killer that most people

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have never heard of and boy he was

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something else and just uh when I dug

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into it it was just unbelievable how

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evil this guy was but how easily he just

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fit in I mean he was literally and he

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said this himself I'm like two people

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there's there was the hymn that had a

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successful business and a girlfriend and

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a child and then there was a hymn that

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traveled literally all around the

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country uh this is a quote from him

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practicing his craft craft he called it

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of homicide

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so he was proud of it I mean he didn't I

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I can't wrap my head around somebody

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like that just so far out there

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it's it's a psychological problem it

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really is it's like something from what

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I can understand of it it's something

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like internal that just clicks

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to apparently his degree he had been

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that way since childhood and he realized

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that he was uh different in that respect

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and just kind of went with it isolated

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himself he had these uh Cardinal rules

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that he set for himself and he had to

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follow these exactly and don't don't

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kill in your home state don't use the

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same weapon twice always rent cars he

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had these kill kits that he would leave

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at sites ahead of time which was a

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bucket full of he'd have things in there

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like guns ammo rope zip ties money

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disguises he would bury these and then

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go back to that location if it wasn't

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already pre-planned and just to become a

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crime of opportunity but then he had

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other people that he specifically

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targeted that he would watch for days

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weeks or months learn everything that he

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could about them their habits and then

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strike accordingly he was just he was a

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monster and a boulder Nelson Bigfoot's a

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demonic problem I agree I think there's

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a demonic element to that and that's one

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of the things he had done he was raised

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in a

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religious household I think they were

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Mormon but uh the kids were homeschooled

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they weren't allowed to have any kind of

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contact with any they couldn't even

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listen to music because the parents said

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that wasn't the devil but and so his

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former Rebellion he dedicated himself to

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Satan and uh was and playing a ritual

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sacrifice but I don't think he ever did

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that but he invited evil I mean he

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opened up the door and he walked right

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yeah no I agree with that and I know you

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said you want to stay away from Ted

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Bundy but they had even said that like

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Ted Bundy I believe it was Ted Bundy

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that his eyes had turned solid black

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yeah like there was another killer like

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that I I can't remember what the guy's

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name was but uh there was a picture of

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him one of the most chilling pictures

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I've seen when he was on death row and

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his eyes were completely black and this

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frightening frightening

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the two do you think like demonic

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possession things like that follow I

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think that's that's an element in there

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I think there's something that drives

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those people

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um

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like uh Jeffrey Dahmer claimed that he

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thought he was uh

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reincarnated Aztec priest that like used

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to cut people's hearts out things like

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that and have people like Richard

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Ramirez that was a an about Satanist and

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then you have

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um the Son of Sam there was a a satanic

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element to those killings now that one's

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one that still fascinates me and uh this

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guy here on YouTube I can't remember

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what his name is but he's been doing

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some deep dives into Son of Sam and he's

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actually located some of the survivors

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of those shootings and they swear that

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it was not

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um

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David Berkowitz and Berkowitz has said

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that he acted alone in some of those

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cases and he was present in all of them

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but he wasn't the government in all of

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them it was a a group a covenant or

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whatever you want to call it working

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together at a bunch of Meyer Park and uh

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Yonkers

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so uh fascinating fascinating stuff

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there's a book called the ultimate Evil

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by Mari Terry and he had tied all that

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together back in the late 70s early 80s

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when that book came out he was able to

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link Berkowitz Manson

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of the process church and the final

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judgment and some of these other

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nefarious groups to some other the

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heartless Perry murder in South Dakota

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and just a lot of things that he he

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connected the dots and now we're coming

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to find out that that he was on the

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what do you think about the ones who

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just who just suddenly snap

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like say Chris Watts because they said

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he was you know he was the perfect

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he just basically snapped and the way he

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murdered his entire family it was so

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methodical like it was very very

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calculated very cold and people would

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say well that's not him that's not what

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he you know

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what he did and then yeah I think some

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people that they have that rage gene or

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whatever you want to call it where

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they're able to keep it in check

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up to a point and then suddenly they

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just snap but again babe is that

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something demonic or is that some sort

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of outside influence was he practicing

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witchcraft or phone with a Ouija board

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or was there things that they you know

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they were here talked about in those

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cases was there some involvement in the

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occult or something that could have been

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an influence and I would like to see

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people pursue those angles just just for

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child curiosity

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I've seen uh body cam footage of the

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police and they had tracker drugs with

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them or there are the tracker dogs or

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cadaver dogs and they had been in the

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Watts home and the dog went into this

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closet and you heard a little girl laugh

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and the dog just froze and the two women

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who were there you know the two handlers

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were like you know did he stumble in

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some something like that

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I've seen that video it's chilling yeah

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it is it is and they've said that inside

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his cell that he sees his daughter

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dancing like the one that was a one took

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ballet and he says to the guards like

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she's in here dancing

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she's you know she's like right here and

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the guards are just like what do you

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want us to do we don't see anything you

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know

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anything but yeah I mean I think

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something that's either for him at least

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I think that's Karma him seeing his

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daughter but it's chilling I hope so

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the karma's a thing yeah there's there's

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people out there that I wouldn't want to

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be on the receiving end of what they've

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got coming

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no I totally agree with you I totally

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agree

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um

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what else are you into besides this is

503
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there anything coming up on the horizon

504
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oh lots of things so I told you I'm

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getting married that's the the biggest

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thing but uh I've got several books that

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I'm working on I've got a couple film

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scripts that uh I've had taken around

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with

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um I've also got a UFO Channel called

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saucer cult and that's the older UFO

512
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stuff the pre-abduction pre Betty and

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Barney Hill like basically from the 40s

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up until about that time back when it

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was uh flying saucers and little man and

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robots and stuff before the whole

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abduction thing uh I just I I mean I get

518
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all that I spoke at a

519
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UFO conference in San Francisco last

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year and uh Drew parallels between

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people with abduction experiences and

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people that have gone missing and came

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back in the stories that they told so

524
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there's there's kind of like some some

525
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overlap there but I just I don't get a

526
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lot of the abduction stuff and so to me

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that's definitely not fun but when I was

528
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a kid you know UFOs were fun and

529
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exciting flying saucers so I've got that

530
00:22:40,549 --> 00:22:37,500
and then I've got uh Insomniac Radio

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Theater which uh they'll have LibriVox

532
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and um old BBC recordings that are in

533
00:22:47,690 --> 00:22:45,240
the public domain now there's some just

534
00:22:50,990 --> 00:22:47,700
amazing amazing stuff I'm an insomniac

535
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:51,000
myself lifelong and uh I try to run

536
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something over there just about Around

537
00:22:57,409 --> 00:22:55,679
the Clock uh audiobooks or radio dramas

538
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and things for people to listen to that

539
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that don't have anything else to do and

540
00:23:02,990 --> 00:23:01,320
want something to listen to

541
00:23:05,690 --> 00:23:03,000
and then of course I've got 13 past

542
00:23:08,930 --> 00:23:05,700
midnight that's my oldest Channel that's

543
00:23:11,450 --> 00:23:08,940
my paranormal Supernatural sandbox over

544
00:23:16,210 --> 00:23:14,149
because you're a very busy guy

545
00:23:18,770 --> 00:23:16,220
yeah

546
00:23:22,010 --> 00:23:18,780
insomnia made it work for me I've been

547
00:23:24,409 --> 00:23:22,020
I'll be 60 this year on Halloween and uh

548
00:23:25,730 --> 00:23:24,419
I've squeezed at least two lifetimes of

549
00:23:27,950 --> 00:23:25,740
experience in there I've been around the

550
00:23:30,590 --> 00:23:27,960
world twice I've lived all over the

551
00:23:32,510 --> 00:23:30,600
country I've held all kinds of jobs and

552
00:23:36,289 --> 00:23:32,520
then I found out I could do this for a

553
00:23:43,690 --> 00:23:36,299
living and uh no stopping me now give me

554
00:23:49,490 --> 00:23:45,890
this is what I was born to do people

555
00:23:50,810 --> 00:23:49,500
tell me my voice uh it relaxes them I

556
00:23:55,130 --> 00:23:50,820
have a lot of people that are chronic

557
00:23:57,529 --> 00:23:55,140
pain PTSD fibromyalgia insomniacs like

558
00:24:00,830 --> 00:23:57,539
myself they like to listen to my voice

559
00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:00,840
so you know it's it's my the gift it was

560
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:02,640
given to me and I give it to other

561
00:24:06,529 --> 00:24:04,320
people that's what I like to do the gift

562
00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:06,539
so if my voice helps you then right on

563
00:24:10,970 --> 00:24:07,760
yeah

564
00:24:12,529 --> 00:24:10,980
it's a little off today I just did an

565
00:24:14,210 --> 00:24:12,539
hour and a half over on another show

566
00:24:16,130 --> 00:24:14,220
before I had to come over here and then

567
00:24:18,649 --> 00:24:16,140
deal with a toothache on top of

568
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:18,659
everything else so I'm not in my best

569
00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:22,080
form tonight but I'm happy to be here

570
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:24,960
Oh no you're wonderful trust me and I I

571
00:24:30,649 --> 00:24:27,600
feel bad about the toothache I do

572
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:30,659
um I said I've had doubt in the past and

573
00:24:36,350 --> 00:24:32,400
gout is ten times worse than the two

574
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:38,570
oh I I don't know about gout but I've

575
00:24:42,649 --> 00:24:40,320
had toothaches so I can just say yeah

576
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:42,659
yeah there's like a toothache times ten

577
00:24:47,330 --> 00:24:45,360
but in either your big toe or your ankle

578
00:24:48,890 --> 00:24:47,340
or you get it in a lot of different

579
00:24:52,250 --> 00:24:48,900
places but I always have it in the

580
00:24:54,830 --> 00:24:52,260
extremities like that and uh I had a

581
00:24:57,529 --> 00:24:54,840
doctor show me those uh your crystals

582
00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:57,539
under like a microscope they look like

583
00:25:02,750 --> 00:25:00,000
little shards of glass so they get down

584
00:25:05,270 --> 00:25:02,760
in your soft tissue causes it to swell

585
00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:05,280
and then any slight movement at all it's

586
00:25:10,669 --> 00:25:07,919
like being stabbed by thousands of

587
00:25:13,370 --> 00:25:10,679
thousands of tiny little shards of glass

588
00:25:15,950 --> 00:25:13,380
and uh just I mean you can't even stand

589
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:15,960
like the the sheet to touch your toe and

590
00:25:25,370 --> 00:25:17,760
that sort of thing so I'll take a

591
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,310
we over Christmas we had

592
00:25:31,850 --> 00:25:30,720
um the fire over Christmas I don't know

593
00:25:35,870 --> 00:25:31,860
if we're allowed to say it on YouTube

594
00:25:38,750 --> 00:25:35,880
but guess what virus we have yeah I

595
00:25:40,850 --> 00:25:38,760
think it's been going around and I it

596
00:25:43,610 --> 00:25:40,860
was like the thing that's been going

597
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:43,620
around yeah it for me it felt like sure

598
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:46,320
it's a glass of trying to come out of my

599
00:25:52,669 --> 00:25:49,440
skin wow that's how bad have you ever

600
00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:52,679
heard of uh more jealous Morgellons

601
00:25:55,310 --> 00:25:54,000
disease have you ever heard about that

602
00:25:57,710 --> 00:25:55,320
yes

603
00:26:00,490 --> 00:25:57,720
where people literally have little

604
00:26:03,710 --> 00:26:00,500
threads or wires or strings or something

605
00:26:05,810 --> 00:26:03,720
they come out of their skin and it's

606
00:26:07,970 --> 00:26:05,820
bizarre that's when you you said that a

607
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:07,980
kid's kind of made me think of that but

608
00:26:13,070 --> 00:26:10,320
uh I haven't had that I've been directly

609
00:26:15,409 --> 00:26:13,080
exposed to it at least twice that I know

610
00:26:18,830 --> 00:26:15,419
of everybody around me got it got sick

611
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:18,840
but uh I don't catch colds or flu or

612
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:20,640
anything normally I have sinus issues

613
00:26:25,490 --> 00:26:24,000
and gout and that's about it but uh I'm

614
00:26:28,250 --> 00:26:25,500
allergic to everything it's Ragweed

615
00:26:30,049 --> 00:26:28,260
season here in New Mexico so that's part

616
00:26:33,049 --> 00:26:30,059
of the reason I sound like this

617
00:26:36,289 --> 00:26:33,059
but uh yeah

618
00:26:38,930 --> 00:26:36,299
Sandy my channel manager writing uh head

619
00:26:41,870 --> 00:26:38,940
writer for my channels uh she moved me

620
00:26:44,750 --> 00:26:41,880
out here from Portland Oregon

621
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:44,760
actually her husband got moved to uh

622
00:26:48,110 --> 00:26:46,799
Albuquerque for his line of work they

623
00:26:49,610 --> 00:26:48,120
moved down there they sold me their

624
00:26:52,130 --> 00:26:49,620
house here so I got out of Portland

625
00:26:54,769 --> 00:26:52,140
Portland had to send it into madness

626
00:26:55,669 --> 00:26:54,779
and uh I'd been there about 15 years and

627
00:26:57,710 --> 00:26:55,679
uh

628
00:26:59,149 --> 00:26:57,720
just just wasn't a place that I

629
00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:59,159
originally moved to and fell in love

630
00:27:03,649 --> 00:27:00,960
with so I like it here in the high

631
00:27:05,930 --> 00:27:03,659
desert though but uh yeah we caught her

632
00:27:07,610 --> 00:27:05,940
she caught it at a truck stop I think

633
00:27:09,710 --> 00:27:07,620
somewhere in Idaho we pretty much drove

634
00:27:12,110 --> 00:27:09,720
straight through uh she got it tested

635
00:27:15,230 --> 00:27:12,120
positive I got a little sick but I

636
00:27:17,149 --> 00:27:15,240
tested negative so go figure but I've

637
00:27:19,610 --> 00:27:17,159
got the Rh negative blood if you believe

638
00:27:20,810 --> 00:27:19,620
in all that like a guy.com they talk

639
00:27:22,970 --> 00:27:20,820
about that

640
00:27:25,730 --> 00:27:22,980
uh green eyes I don't know if you can

641
00:27:29,149 --> 00:27:25,740
see or not but uh I've got alien blood

642
00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:29,159
so that's a lot of stuff and that would

643
00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:31,679
explain a lot I'm not from this planet

644
00:27:36,769 --> 00:27:33,360
I'm just visiting

645
00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:36,779
I do too though

646
00:27:42,289 --> 00:27:39,840
yeah North hours negative blood too so

647
00:27:45,470 --> 00:27:42,299
but I I got see the kiddo had it first

648
00:27:47,570 --> 00:27:45,480
we think he got uh and we thought it was

649
00:27:50,810 --> 00:27:47,580
the flu it wasn't the flu we didn't test

650
00:27:53,390 --> 00:27:50,820
him and then I started getting sick and

651
00:27:55,850 --> 00:27:53,400
I was the one who got tested my husband

652
00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:55,860
it was just and then we were like it

653
00:28:02,930 --> 00:27:59,520
came back in three seconds oh right

654
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:02,940
it was it was awful it was

655
00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:05,279
um the other last time you and I sat

656
00:28:10,909 --> 00:28:08,159
down to talk was on your show 13 pounds

657
00:28:13,789 --> 00:28:10,919
midnight and you told some really good

658
00:28:16,250 --> 00:28:13,799
stories about Disney

659
00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:16,260
and stuff like doing either like a show

660
00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:19,440
on Disney or do you remember

661
00:28:24,890 --> 00:28:21,919
oh yeah

662
00:28:26,510 --> 00:28:24,900
sorry I was the cast member I was a lot

663
00:28:28,850 --> 00:28:26,520
of show production manager down there I

664
00:28:30,409 --> 00:28:28,860
previously worked for Nickelodeon and

665
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:30,419
when they packed up and moved everything

666
00:28:35,630 --> 00:28:32,640
to Burbank I jumped ship and went over

667
00:28:37,730 --> 00:28:35,640
to Disney and uh that's that's probably

668
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:37,740
one of the only regrets I've ever had is

669
00:28:43,010 --> 00:28:39,600
not following Nickelodeon to Burbank

670
00:28:45,230 --> 00:28:43,020
because Disney's just it's a horse with

671
00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:45,240
a different colors they say I was not

672
00:28:50,210 --> 00:28:48,000
happy at all there they they wanted to

673
00:28:52,730 --> 00:28:50,220
be the happiest place on Earth but

674
00:28:55,850 --> 00:28:52,740
behind the scenes it's it's not a very

675
00:28:58,370 --> 00:28:55,860
happy place I'm here to tell you

676
00:29:00,890 --> 00:28:58,380
yeah you you were telling us some of the

677
00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:00,900
the horror stories and things like that

678
00:29:06,289 --> 00:29:03,440
from that do you think oh yeah

679
00:29:08,810 --> 00:29:06,299
I'd like to somebody else has asked me

680
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:08,820
to do one like that so if I can do it

681
00:29:13,610 --> 00:29:10,559
and get in trouble because Disney's got

682
00:29:16,370 --> 00:29:13,620
all kinds of lawyers but uh everything I

683
00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:16,380
I tell is uh backed up by the the truth

684
00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:17,760
and truth

685
00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:20,460
but uh so just little things like uh

686
00:29:26,330 --> 00:29:22,080
nobody ever dies in The Magic Kingdom

687
00:29:31,789 --> 00:29:30,470
no one has ever died there but well I

688
00:29:33,289 --> 00:29:31,799
mean there was there's people like have

689
00:29:34,730 --> 00:29:33,299
been uh cut in half

690
00:29:37,549 --> 00:29:34,740
but what they do they take your parts

691
00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:37,559
your pieces over across the highway into

692
00:29:41,630 --> 00:29:39,840
the hospital of Celebration which is the

693
00:29:43,310 --> 00:29:41,640
town that Disney built and they

694
00:29:45,950 --> 00:29:43,320
pronounce you dead there at the hospital

695
00:29:48,049 --> 00:29:45,960
instead of on the scene so technically

696
00:29:49,610 --> 00:29:48,059
they can say no one's ever died in the

697
00:29:50,570 --> 00:29:49,620
Magic Kingdom although a lot of people

698
00:29:52,970 --> 00:29:50,580
have

699
00:29:55,250 --> 00:29:52,980
many of you don't hear about and there's

700
00:29:57,889 --> 00:29:55,260
also dead people in the Magic Kingdom

701
00:30:00,049 --> 00:29:57,899
one of the things that uh they were

702
00:30:02,690 --> 00:30:00,059
always on the lookout for people going

703
00:30:04,610 --> 00:30:02,700
into the Haunted Mansion attraction and

704
00:30:06,889 --> 00:30:04,620
spreading their loves one's ashes in

705
00:30:08,149 --> 00:30:06,899
there but uh just to let you know if

706
00:30:10,970 --> 00:30:08,159
you've got that idea they go through

707
00:30:12,769 --> 00:30:10,980
every night and uh and like deep clean

708
00:30:14,930 --> 00:30:12,779
that vacuum it out and everything so

709
00:30:16,490 --> 00:30:14,940
you're just you're scattering your ashes

710
00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:16,500
in the wrong place if you do it in there

711
00:30:21,409 --> 00:30:19,260
it won't stay there but I do like the

712
00:30:24,289 --> 00:30:21,419
idea of that though because it tells you

713
00:30:25,970 --> 00:30:24,299
on the right you know what is it 999

714
00:30:29,330 --> 00:30:25,980
ghosts there's always room for one more

715
00:30:31,549 --> 00:30:29,340
whatever so and another secret there

716
00:30:34,190 --> 00:30:31,559
there is a person a very wealthy

717
00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:34,200
businessman I can't reveal the name but

718
00:30:38,590 --> 00:30:35,880
he is buried

719
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:38,600
uh on Magic Kingdom property in Florida

720
00:30:44,450 --> 00:30:42,240
that was his final wish and his widow

721
00:30:46,850 --> 00:30:44,460
was able to work it out and it's off in

722
00:30:49,250 --> 00:30:46,860
the woods it's if you know where to look

723
00:30:52,430 --> 00:30:49,260
you can see it from the monorail but

724
00:30:54,889 --> 00:30:52,440
there is a an unmarked grave out and

725
00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:54,899
kind of the swamp there actually

726
00:31:00,110 --> 00:30:57,360
and uh that's a lot of people don't know

727
00:31:02,510 --> 00:31:00,120
that uh there's an underground there's

728
00:31:04,190 --> 00:31:02,520
tunnels all into the Magic Kingdom when

729
00:31:06,169 --> 00:31:04,200
you're first walking in and you go up

730
00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:06,179
the hill to go to Main Street that's

731
00:31:10,250 --> 00:31:08,399
built up on a rise that was all flat

732
00:31:11,690 --> 00:31:10,260
they built the tunnel system and

733
00:31:14,330 --> 00:31:11,700
everything of course there's holding

734
00:31:16,130 --> 00:31:14,340
cells under there there's uh changing

735
00:31:18,289 --> 00:31:16,140
rooms all kinds of offices and stuff

736
00:31:20,690 --> 00:31:18,299
under there then they piled dirt on top

737
00:31:22,130 --> 00:31:20,700
of it and then built Main Street USA on

738
00:31:24,529 --> 00:31:22,140
top of that

739
00:31:27,950 --> 00:31:24,539
so there there is underground tunnels at

740
00:31:34,909 --> 00:31:32,529
and I think would like to explore that

741
00:31:38,090 --> 00:31:34,919
Walt has an apartment there above the

742
00:31:40,430 --> 00:31:38,100
firehouse where uh on Main Street where

743
00:31:42,409 --> 00:31:40,440
he used to stay and there's a light in

744
00:31:44,750 --> 00:31:42,419
the window that never goes out and

745
00:31:47,389 --> 00:31:44,760
that's in his memory because what they

746
00:31:49,010 --> 00:31:47,399
used to do when he was there they would

747
00:31:50,570 --> 00:31:49,020
turn that light on to let all the

748
00:31:52,250 --> 00:31:50,580
employees all the cast members know that

749
00:31:55,610 --> 00:31:52,260
Walt was on the property

750
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:55,620
and uh after he passed away they keep it

751
00:32:00,049 --> 00:31:57,840
lit all the time

752
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,059
and uh if you've ever been to uh used to

753
00:32:05,210 --> 00:32:02,159
being Fulton's Crab Shack prior to that

754
00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:05,220
it was uh the uh I can't remember the

755
00:32:08,690 --> 00:32:07,260
name but it looks like a Riverboat but

756
00:32:10,789 --> 00:32:08,700
it's docked permanently there at

757
00:32:12,049 --> 00:32:10,799
Downtown Disney and it said it's

758
00:32:14,330 --> 00:32:12,059
actually not about it all there's a

759
00:32:16,669 --> 00:32:14,340
basement and everything there but uh

760
00:32:18,830 --> 00:32:16,679
that was originally built by the

761
00:32:20,210 --> 00:32:18,840
imagineers so Walt's wife would have a

762
00:32:22,010 --> 00:32:20,220
place to go and eat breakfast in the

763
00:32:24,169 --> 00:32:22,020
mornings uh I can't remember what her

764
00:32:26,750 --> 00:32:24,179
name was Lily I want to say

765
00:32:29,029 --> 00:32:26,760
but there's all kinds of Secrets I don't

766
00:32:30,409 --> 00:32:29,039
even know he was married yeah he didn't

767
00:32:33,769 --> 00:32:30,419
even know he was married

768
00:32:35,450 --> 00:32:33,779
but no that's that's fascinating if

769
00:32:36,649 --> 00:32:35,460
you're ever inclined I would love to

770
00:32:39,169 --> 00:32:36,659
hear a show about that I think everyone

771
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:39,179
else would too God like that I need to

772
00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:40,559
sit down and write all these out because

773
00:32:45,470 --> 00:32:42,720
they just kind of come to me and and

774
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:45,480
fits and starts but uh yeah there's a

775
00:32:49,549 --> 00:32:47,039
lot of Disney secrets so I said I just

776
00:32:51,950 --> 00:32:49,559
don't want to get sued by the mouse

777
00:32:55,630 --> 00:32:51,960
Disney World where a mouse built a trap

778
00:33:01,250 --> 00:32:58,430
there you go

779
00:33:03,049 --> 00:33:01,260
and it's not just there I mean like all

780
00:33:06,169 --> 00:33:03,059
the Disney parks have little secrets and

781
00:33:08,389 --> 00:33:06,179
stuff uh if you go to uh Disneyland the

782
00:33:09,889 --> 00:33:08,399
original in Anaheim California when you

783
00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:09,899
go on to Pirates of the Caribbean you go

784
00:33:14,029 --> 00:33:11,760
down that first big drop if you look up

785
00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:14,039
you can see like a dining room in there

786
00:33:20,509 --> 00:33:17,519
that's Club 33. uh that's a secret

787
00:33:22,610 --> 00:33:20,519
members only Club the waiting list is

788
00:33:24,430 --> 00:33:22,620
several years long it's mainly for

789
00:33:27,710 --> 00:33:24,440
corporate sponsors and people like that

790
00:33:29,570 --> 00:33:27,720
and uh that's the only place in the

791
00:33:32,570 --> 00:33:29,580
Magic Kingdom where alcohol is served

792
00:33:35,509 --> 00:33:32,580
but you have to be a member or be with a

793
00:33:38,269 --> 00:33:35,519
member to even get in there

794
00:33:41,450 --> 00:33:38,279
and uh the there's animatronics in there

795
00:33:41,460 --> 00:33:47,470
incline 33.

796
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:50,930
there's like 33 members or there there

797
00:33:55,970 --> 00:33:52,799
was some kind of something like that

798
00:33:58,130 --> 00:33:55,980
that's uh basically a lot of people have

799
00:34:00,409 --> 00:33:58,140
tied that to the Illuminati and thing so

800
00:34:03,289 --> 00:34:00,419
33rd degree Mason and things like that

801
00:34:05,450 --> 00:34:03,299
so I don't know about all that but uh

802
00:34:07,789 --> 00:34:05,460
it's there there's animatronics in there

803
00:34:10,669 --> 00:34:07,799
there's even hidden microphones in there

804
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:10,679
that aren't supposedly used but Walt's

805
00:34:14,089 --> 00:34:12,240
idea was to install those in the

806
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:14,099
chandeliers above the table so you can

807
00:34:19,010 --> 00:34:15,599
ease drop on the guests and see what

808
00:34:19,020 --> 00:34:23,510
oh because that's not weird at all right

809
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:25,550
encourage individuals

810
00:34:30,530 --> 00:34:28,399
he was he was a little odd

811
00:34:31,970 --> 00:34:30,540
truly a Visionary though I mean that

812
00:34:35,089 --> 00:34:31,980
experimental prototype Community

813
00:34:36,770 --> 00:34:35,099
tomorrow Epcot uh he envisioned a lot of

814
00:34:39,230 --> 00:34:36,780
things that we're seeing now they

815
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:39,240
thought of that back in the 60s when he

816
00:34:44,089 --> 00:34:41,520
was designing the place

817
00:34:46,430 --> 00:34:44,099
and uh D.A song good to see you here

818
00:34:50,450 --> 00:34:46,440
she's one of my friends on Facebook and

819
00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:50,460
indeed Walt was the 33rd degree basin

820
00:34:57,050 --> 00:34:54,480
oh was he I did not know that yeah wow

821
00:34:59,329 --> 00:34:57,060
so there's lots of symbolism there's

822
00:35:01,490 --> 00:34:59,339
lots of little little hints and things

823
00:35:03,290 --> 00:35:01,500
the hidden Mickeys now that's kind of a

824
00:35:06,890 --> 00:35:03,300
thing with the tourist but just about

825
00:35:08,450 --> 00:35:06,900
anywhere you go there are many many of

826
00:35:11,450 --> 00:35:08,460
the little uh the circle with the mouse

827
00:35:14,210 --> 00:35:11,460
series they're hidden all over the place

828
00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:14,220
and I think there's a book that you can

829
00:35:18,890 --> 00:35:16,260
buy that'll help you find some of those

830
00:35:22,609 --> 00:35:18,900
so they're big they're big on the

831
00:35:23,690 --> 00:35:22,619
symbolism and the numbers and uh it's I

832
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:23,700
said I think there's something in the

833
00:35:27,410 --> 00:35:25,920
water there uh you can be written up for

834
00:35:29,690 --> 00:35:27,420
not smiling

835
00:35:32,450 --> 00:35:29,700
and and they have families that that

836
00:35:34,970 --> 00:35:32,460
poses tourists and if they see you

837
00:35:37,790 --> 00:35:34,980
within sight of uh

838
00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:37,800
of uh visitors and you're not smiling

839
00:35:42,050 --> 00:35:40,079
you get written up now the only

840
00:35:44,030 --> 00:35:42,060
exception are the people that work in

841
00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:44,040
the Haunted Mansion they're not allowed

842
00:35:47,650 --> 00:35:45,119
to smile

843
00:35:50,810 --> 00:35:47,660
to keep it creepy

844
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:50,820
and back when Disney on MGM Studios

845
00:35:55,390 --> 00:35:52,560
there in Florida right at the end of the

846
00:35:57,490 --> 00:35:55,400
day oh it did

847
00:36:01,370 --> 00:35:57,500
just

848
00:36:03,710 --> 00:36:01,380
exactly oh my gosh but it's almost an

849
00:36:05,810 --> 00:36:03,720
indoctrination when you when you're a

850
00:36:07,730 --> 00:36:05,820
new hire the first thing they run you

851
00:36:09,710 --> 00:36:07,740
through they have a class it's called

852
00:36:10,910 --> 00:36:09,720
Traditions it seems like it's a few

853
00:36:12,770 --> 00:36:10,920
hours long

854
00:36:14,690 --> 00:36:12,780
but uh it's one of those things you have

855
00:36:16,010 --> 00:36:14,700
to be on time they close the doors

856
00:36:18,670 --> 00:36:16,020
immediately when it's supposed to start

857
00:36:21,950 --> 00:36:18,680
to lock them you you can't come in late

858
00:36:23,810 --> 00:36:21,960
and I think you only have two chances to

859
00:36:26,270 --> 00:36:23,820
attend one of those uh

860
00:36:28,849 --> 00:36:26,280
meetings or then you don't work there

861
00:36:30,410 --> 00:36:28,859
anymore before you start but it's it's

862
00:36:33,970 --> 00:36:30,420
this whole thing that they show you

863
00:36:36,530 --> 00:36:33,980
about the the Disney uh view the Disney

864
00:36:40,250 --> 00:36:36,540
it's really it's it's an indoctrination

865
00:36:44,329 --> 00:36:40,260
I mean what can you say and uh it's just

866
00:36:52,970 --> 00:36:50,089
yeah and people yeah indeed they're very

867
00:36:55,370 --> 00:36:52,980
yeah if you have to frown you have to be

868
00:36:56,990 --> 00:36:55,380
out of sight of the guest I said uh

869
00:36:58,910 --> 00:36:57,000
visitors or tourists but they are a

870
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:58,920
guests and everybody that works there as

871
00:37:04,010 --> 00:37:01,200
a cast member whether you're invisible

872
00:37:06,349 --> 00:37:04,020
or not uh most time I wasn't like I said

873
00:37:07,550 --> 00:37:06,359
I did live show production but I ride

874
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:07,560
around with the clipboard made sure

875
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:08,640
everybody was doing what they were

876
00:37:13,490 --> 00:37:10,320
supposed to do and that was another

877
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:13,500
thing like if there was a bulb out

878
00:37:19,010 --> 00:37:15,839
you had to call an electrician to come

879
00:37:21,290 --> 00:37:19,020
and change the bulb and uh if there was

880
00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:21,300
stuff in his way he couldn't move it he

881
00:37:25,010 --> 00:37:23,280
had to call a Teamster to come and move

882
00:37:26,210 --> 00:37:25,020
it well the Teamster's on a 15-minute

883
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:26,220
break

884
00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:28,560
and I got in trouble one time I just I

885
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:31,200
went and got a ladder and uh climbed up

886
00:37:36,650 --> 00:37:33,599
and changed above myself and got written

887
00:37:38,810 --> 00:37:36,660
up for it the the union filed agreements

888
00:37:41,210 --> 00:37:38,820
against me or whatever for

889
00:37:42,650 --> 00:37:41,220
because I had insulted the electrician's

890
00:37:44,690 --> 00:37:42,660
union the carpet because you had to get

891
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:44,700
the ladder from the carpenter you have

892
00:37:48,890 --> 00:37:47,280
to change one bulb call electrician he'd

893
00:37:50,450 --> 00:37:48,900
call a carpenter the carpenter would

894
00:37:51,290 --> 00:37:50,460
call a Teamster if he couldn't get to

895
00:37:55,310 --> 00:37:51,300
the

896
00:37:58,130 --> 00:37:55,320
you'd have to call a houseman to come

897
00:38:00,050 --> 00:37:58,140
and clean up after everybody so I was

898
00:38:01,670 --> 00:38:00,060
tired of that I just I went found a

899
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:01,680
ladder I stood it up I climbed up there

900
00:38:05,150 --> 00:38:04,079
I had the bulb I changed the bulb and

901
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:05,160
yeah I got in trouble with the

902
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:06,960
electrician's union the Teamsters Union

903
00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:09,839
the the carpenters union and those who

904
00:38:14,750 --> 00:38:12,300
no telling who else but uh that was the

905
00:38:17,390 --> 00:38:14,760
probably Severus reprimand I got what I

906
00:38:19,790 --> 00:38:17,400
was saying it was like all those Union

907
00:38:21,650 --> 00:38:19,800
stewards and me are in there and they're

908
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:21,660
all ganging up on me

909
00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:23,280
you're not supposed to change the light

910
00:38:26,569 --> 00:38:25,200
bulb you can't move that ladder you

911
00:38:28,250 --> 00:38:26,579
can't shove that stuff out of the way

912
00:38:29,329 --> 00:38:28,260
what are you doing you're just the stage

913
00:38:31,130 --> 00:38:29,339
manager

914
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:31,140
see I didn't did the last song there

915
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:41,210
I blame you I wouldn't have been

916
00:38:46,370 --> 00:38:44,270
it's a question I

917
00:38:48,050 --> 00:38:46,380
is my husband for anyone who doesn't

918
00:38:50,990 --> 00:38:48,060
know so

919
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:51,000
that first job he's talking about I

920
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:53,280
worked at the same place he did

921
00:38:57,530 --> 00:38:55,680
directly across from where he was

922
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:57,540
working at where they had him stationed

923
00:39:02,750 --> 00:39:00,000
and I didn't know as a teenager because

924
00:39:04,910 --> 00:39:02,760
I had I had moved I had moved to a

925
00:39:06,410 --> 00:39:04,920
different County at the time so we

926
00:39:08,569 --> 00:39:06,420
basically worked with the same theme

927
00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:08,579
park and

928
00:39:13,490 --> 00:39:12,000
I can agree with him it was horrible are

929
00:39:16,670 --> 00:39:13,500
you allowed to mention the same part or

930
00:39:18,829 --> 00:39:16,680
give us a hint it was

931
00:39:21,290 --> 00:39:18,839
you you faded out on me there a little

932
00:39:25,730 --> 00:39:21,300
bit you glitched just a little

933
00:39:29,870 --> 00:39:27,829
I'm sorry what

934
00:39:31,730 --> 00:39:29,880
I I didn't hear what theme park it was

935
00:39:34,730 --> 00:39:31,740
or if you could even say what it was or

936
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:34,740
give us a hint oh no

937
00:39:44,930 --> 00:39:42,710
hang on I think we lost some sound can

938
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:44,940
you hear me Steve yeah I can't now there

939
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,750
foreign

940
00:39:56,450 --> 00:39:53,030
okay sorry so what did you hear before

941
00:39:58,430 --> 00:39:56,460
we cut out uh I'd ask you if it was if

942
00:40:00,770 --> 00:39:58,440
you could tell the thing Parker give us

943
00:40:03,410 --> 00:40:00,780
a hint but I didn't hear an answer so if

944
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:03,420
my question is no or no to that answer

945
00:40:08,089 --> 00:40:05,760
then never mind I just wonder where it

946
00:40:15,770 --> 00:40:12,050
no

947
00:40:19,069 --> 00:40:15,780
in the chat it was wow it's like it's

948
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:19,079
literally down the road from us so we we

949
00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:21,839
live very close to it okay what what

950
00:40:30,410 --> 00:40:28,550
Pennsylvania

951
00:40:33,410 --> 00:40:30,420
okay

952
00:40:35,630 --> 00:40:33,420
yeah it's in Pennsylvania I'm not sure

953
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:35,640
the exact address but it's I would say

954
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:38,400
it's Ligonier Pennsylvania I'm not sure

955
00:40:43,370 --> 00:40:40,560
Thomas is better with you know address

956
00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:43,380
yeah there's different idle wells around

957
00:40:49,310 --> 00:40:46,320
that's why I asked there's a Idlewild in

958
00:40:52,430 --> 00:40:49,320
California not a park but I mean a a

959
00:40:54,370 --> 00:40:52,440
place so I'm just curious yeah but yeah

960
00:40:57,050 --> 00:40:54,380
that same part works

961
00:40:58,970 --> 00:40:57,060
not what it's now when I worked for

962
00:41:01,550 --> 00:40:58,980
Nickelodeon they had the the studios

963
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:01,560
there in the theme park and stuff but I

964
00:41:06,650 --> 00:41:04,560
was inside I was a live production I

965
00:41:08,829 --> 00:41:06,660
show production manager there

966
00:41:10,670 --> 00:41:08,839
so

967
00:41:13,250 --> 00:41:10,680
but uh

968
00:41:15,470 --> 00:41:13,260
but I'm kind of glad I didn't follow him

969
00:41:16,849 --> 00:41:15,480
to Burbank because all the paths that

970
00:41:18,290 --> 00:41:16,859
I've been on have led me to where I am

971
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:18,300
right now and I'm the happiest I've ever

972
00:41:23,150 --> 00:41:20,640
been and you know sometimes just one

973
00:41:26,329 --> 00:41:23,160
little little side jaunt could have

974
00:41:27,530 --> 00:41:26,339
changed everything so if I had to go

975
00:41:29,690 --> 00:41:27,540
through everything I've ever been

976
00:41:31,970 --> 00:41:29,700
through to get where I am today I'd do

977
00:41:33,770 --> 00:41:31,980
it on hands and knees through broken

978
00:41:40,990 --> 00:41:33,780
glass because I'm the happiest I've ever

979
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,050
just hang in there

980
00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:47,829
yeah

981
00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:50,329
we started talking about this and it's a

982
00:41:54,530 --> 00:41:52,560
stream started uh and I've had that

983
00:41:56,510 --> 00:41:54,540
happen I've been on shows where I was

984
00:42:00,290 --> 00:41:56,520
maybe talking conspiracy theories and

985
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:02,210
oh geez

986
00:42:06,349 --> 00:42:04,800
but no I I agree with you it's amazing

987
00:42:08,270 --> 00:42:06,359
how you know you make one little turn

988
00:42:10,450 --> 00:42:08,280
left or right and then it just sets you

989
00:42:14,510 --> 00:42:10,460
on this path

990
00:42:16,130 --> 00:42:14,520
it literally is and I I don't believe in

991
00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:16,140
coincidence I think everything happens

992
00:42:21,290 --> 00:42:18,480
for a reason in its own time and what

993
00:42:23,450 --> 00:42:21,300
it's supposed to and uh a lot of times

994
00:42:25,310 --> 00:42:23,460
we don't see that except in

995
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:25,320
retrospective even then but I can look

996
00:42:29,450 --> 00:42:27,359
back and think boy I'm glad I didn't do

997
00:42:30,890 --> 00:42:29,460
that I'm glad I didn't do this or I

998
00:42:32,750 --> 00:42:30,900
really wanted that at that time and I'm

999
00:42:34,609 --> 00:42:32,760
glad I didn't get it because now I've

1000
00:42:37,849 --> 00:42:34,619
got something even better so

1001
00:42:40,910 --> 00:42:37,859
it's just it's you know is your glass

1002
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:40,920
half empty or half full so

1003
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:42,720
life's what you make and it's it's about

1004
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:44,880
the journey not the destination thank

1005
00:43:00,010 --> 00:42:58,609
um some other things to talk about those

1006
00:43:02,930 --> 00:43:00,020
Disney Parks

1007
00:43:04,910 --> 00:43:02,940
they have uh there's a video that you

1008
00:43:06,829 --> 00:43:04,920
can find on there where they're what

1009
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:06,839
looks like a ghost walking out of the

1010
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:08,160
Haunted Mansion and through the security

1011
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:10,560
gate and I think it turns and goes

1012
00:43:15,290 --> 00:43:13,440
toward Frontier land but uh you can see

1013
00:43:17,210 --> 00:43:15,300
that I mean it was filmed from the

1014
00:43:18,530 --> 00:43:17,220
monitors in the security office there so

1015
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:18,540
there are

1016
00:43:23,770 --> 00:43:20,640
people have died there I'm not surprised

1017
00:43:26,210 --> 00:43:23,780
that it's haunted uh

1018
00:43:28,970 --> 00:43:26,220
this this and narrative I'll help him

1019
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:28,980
say that right uh yeah indeed I have I

1020
00:43:34,490 --> 00:43:31,680
have I feel bad because yeah

1021
00:43:36,109 --> 00:43:34,500
oh that's the is that a loaded question

1022
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:36,119
did you put them up to that because I

1023
00:43:40,730 --> 00:43:38,160
think I told that story the last time I

1024
00:43:42,829 --> 00:43:40,740
was on here to my book My Strange World

1025
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:42,839
which is my own personal paranormal

1026
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:45,119
experiences some of them but yeah when I

1027
00:43:49,550 --> 00:43:46,400
was growing up there

1028
00:43:52,130 --> 00:43:49,560
I'll tell that story if you want me to

1029
00:43:54,890 --> 00:43:52,140
it's a little long-winded but I'll tell

1030
00:43:57,770 --> 00:43:54,900
it as quickly as I can but uh on that

1031
00:43:59,450 --> 00:43:57,780
property where I grew up uh one one of

1032
00:44:02,089 --> 00:43:59,460
the property lines was this ditch was

1033
00:44:03,470 --> 00:44:02,099
about 10 12 feet deep found out years

1034
00:44:05,089 --> 00:44:03,480
later through research that that had

1035
00:44:07,550 --> 00:44:05,099
been the Old Stage Coach wrote through

1036
00:44:10,309 --> 00:44:07,560
their uh dating back to revolutionary

1037
00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:10,319
times and I was out in the woods one day

1038
00:44:13,609 --> 00:44:12,660
my brother had had hunting dogs years

1039
00:44:15,710 --> 00:44:13,619
before

1040
00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:15,720
and uh there was an old dog line up

1041
00:44:18,829 --> 00:44:17,520
there it was like just basically resting

1042
00:44:21,770 --> 00:44:18,839
into the ground

1043
00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:21,780
and our dog run and uh I was just out

1044
00:44:25,069 --> 00:44:23,280
prowling through the woods and I looked

1045
00:44:26,569 --> 00:44:25,079
I walked up to that ditch and I looked

1046
00:44:28,910 --> 00:44:26,579
down and it didn't see anything

1047
00:44:31,069 --> 00:44:28,920
interesting I was eight years old turned

1048
00:44:33,230 --> 00:44:31,079
around and started to go the other way

1049
00:44:35,450 --> 00:44:33,240
and I hear something in the leaves in

1050
00:44:37,309 --> 00:44:35,460
the ditch and I turned around and just

1051
00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:37,319
as I turned around and looked something

1052
00:44:42,589 --> 00:44:40,319
came up over the lip of that ditch

1053
00:44:44,329 --> 00:44:42,599
it was headed straight toward me I mean

1054
00:44:46,849 --> 00:44:44,339
it was kicking up the leaves in its wake

1055
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:46,859
tree branch is a lot higher than my head

1056
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:48,720
we're being knocked out of the way and

1057
00:44:53,150 --> 00:44:51,599
stuff but I couldn't see whatever it was

1058
00:44:55,309 --> 00:44:53,160
I could see the effect it was having on

1059
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:55,319
everything I could feel the footfalls

1060
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:57,599
but there was nothing there so I took

1061
00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:00,480
off down the hill running and screaming

1062
00:45:06,290 --> 00:45:03,599
uh I was probably maybe a quarter mile

1063
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:06,300
away from the house but uh my I was

1064
00:45:09,530 --> 00:45:07,920
making such a racket that my mom heard

1065
00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:09,540
me came out on the back porch to see

1066
00:45:13,250 --> 00:45:11,040
what I'd done this time

1067
00:45:14,930 --> 00:45:13,260
and uh I passed her up went inside and

1068
00:45:18,349 --> 00:45:14,940
hit under the furniture

1069
00:45:20,569 --> 00:45:18,359
and uh when uh she finally got me calmed

1070
00:45:23,630 --> 00:45:20,579
down I just like something that I

1071
00:45:25,250 --> 00:45:23,640
couldn't see chased me and uh not too

1072
00:45:26,750 --> 00:45:25,260
long after that my dad got home from

1073
00:45:28,550 --> 00:45:26,760
work and my brother just happened to

1074
00:45:30,170 --> 00:45:28,560
stop by he lived about two and a half

1075
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:30,180
miles away

1076
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:34,079
and uh I told them all about it and so

1077
00:45:39,530 --> 00:45:36,240
they went up there it was in Tennessee

1078
00:45:41,809 --> 00:45:39,540
uh the anguin song East Tennessee

1079
00:45:43,010 --> 00:45:41,819
so uh they went up there and looked sure

1080
00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:43,020
enough they could see where the ground

1081
00:45:47,150 --> 00:45:44,880
cover was Disturbed in the tree branches

1082
00:45:49,490 --> 00:45:47,160
were broken up high and

1083
00:45:52,010 --> 00:45:49,500
so they quizzed me was it a bear no was

1084
00:45:53,690 --> 00:45:52,020
it a deer no was it this was it that I

1085
00:45:55,970 --> 00:45:53,700
grew up in the woods I spent a lot of

1086
00:45:58,130 --> 00:45:55,980
time in the Smokies which was just an

1087
00:45:59,930 --> 00:45:58,140
hour away I knew what all those animals

1088
00:46:01,130 --> 00:45:59,940
looked like this was something I

1089
00:46:04,370 --> 00:46:01,140
couldn't see

1090
00:46:06,589 --> 00:46:04,380
so uh I never really went back up there

1091
00:46:08,089 --> 00:46:06,599
much I had a kid come home from school

1092
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:08,099
with me one time I sent him up there

1093
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,800
without telling him why John don't stand

1094
00:46:15,170 --> 00:46:12,720
up there for the ditch I'm going to hide

1095
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:15,180
down here behind this tree so he walks

1096
00:46:19,609 --> 00:46:17,520
up there he's looking around

1097
00:46:21,470 --> 00:46:19,619
didn't bother him and I think I even

1098
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:21,480
tried one time I walked up kind of close

1099
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:24,480
to it and let him hide and watch nothing

1100
00:46:27,650 --> 00:46:25,440
happened

1101
00:46:29,450 --> 00:46:27,660
so I just avoided the place and

1102
00:46:31,370 --> 00:46:29,460
occasionally you know I would think back

1103
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:31,380
about him I just I don't want to go back

1104
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:34,560
to her well Flash Forward I'm 15 years

1105
00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:35,760
old we're getting ready to move from

1106
00:46:39,710 --> 00:46:36,480
there

1107
00:46:42,410 --> 00:46:39,720
we had sold that property

1108
00:46:43,730 --> 00:46:42,420
had been subdivided and we were moving

1109
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:43,740
closer to where I was going to go to

1110
00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:47,280
high school it's about 20 miles away

1111
00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:48,960
and um

1112
00:46:52,130 --> 00:46:50,640
I was just kind of taking a walk around

1113
00:46:53,390 --> 00:46:52,140
the old property because that was you

1114
00:46:55,609 --> 00:46:53,400
know that's where I grew up I grew up in

1115
00:46:58,849 --> 00:46:55,619
those woods I had forts there was an

1116
00:47:01,670 --> 00:46:58,859
abandoned graveyard uh just down the

1117
00:47:03,410 --> 00:47:01,680
hill was it had been the river one time

1118
00:47:05,690 --> 00:47:03,420
in the Tennessee Valley Authority dammed

1119
00:47:08,690 --> 00:47:05,700
it up and made a lake out of it but on

1120
00:47:11,210 --> 00:47:08,700
that property there were seven natural

1121
00:47:13,309 --> 00:47:11,220
springs six of them flowed out of

1122
00:47:15,710 --> 00:47:13,319
hillsides one was an Artesian spring

1123
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:15,720
they came up those all flowed into a

1124
00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:17,760
bigger Creek and that flowed down into

1125
00:47:21,530 --> 00:47:19,920
the lake which was about 100 yards or so

1126
00:47:24,170 --> 00:47:21,540
away

1127
00:47:26,450 --> 00:47:24,180
so I'm just again having a look around

1128
00:47:28,970 --> 00:47:26,460
just about childhood haunts The Bee Tree

1129
00:47:32,210 --> 00:47:28,980
and my Forts and the the band and

1130
00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:32,220
graveyard and stuff and uh I walked back

1131
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:33,960
up to the ditch and I just kind of

1132
00:47:39,530 --> 00:47:36,000
chuckled you know I'm 15 now I'm

1133
00:47:41,569 --> 00:47:39,540
not as it was more Fearless than I was

1134
00:47:43,130 --> 00:47:41,579
at eight anyway and I kind of looked

1135
00:47:45,230 --> 00:47:43,140
down in the ditch and I chuckled I said

1136
00:47:46,849 --> 00:47:45,240
what what that wasn't chased me though

1137
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:46,859
all those years ago

1138
00:47:50,809 --> 00:47:48,480
and uh turned around started walking

1139
00:47:53,450 --> 00:47:50,819
back away from that I hear something

1140
00:47:55,490 --> 00:47:53,460
from me or something in the leaves I

1141
00:47:57,650 --> 00:47:55,500
turn around sure enough same exact thing

1142
00:47:59,870 --> 00:47:57,660
something came up over the lip of that

1143
00:48:01,370 --> 00:47:59,880
ditch that I could not say was headed

1144
00:48:03,710 --> 00:48:01,380
straight for me now I did run screaming

1145
00:48:05,690 --> 00:48:03,720
and crying that time but I didn't waste

1146
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:05,700
any time getting out of there and that's

1147
00:48:10,849 --> 00:48:07,920
the last time I've ever ever been up

1148
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:10,859
there that was I was 15 so that's been

1149
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:13,920
for almost 45 years ago never went back

1150
00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:15,839
I'd like to go back sometime and just

1151
00:48:21,790 --> 00:48:18,839
see but there's more to this story

1152
00:48:24,650 --> 00:48:21,800
um Flash Forward a few more years I'm 21

1153
00:48:26,210 --> 00:48:24,660
I'm working in uh the Cedar Bluff area

1154
00:48:28,190 --> 00:48:26,220
of West Knoxville

1155
00:48:29,870 --> 00:48:28,200
and somebody that I worked with that I

1156
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:29,880
just knew from work had invited me to a

1157
00:48:33,770 --> 00:48:32,160
party after work and I've never been

1158
00:48:36,589 --> 00:48:33,780
much of a party person but for whatever

1159
00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:36,599
reason I decided to go it was just down

1160
00:48:43,250 --> 00:48:40,800
the road at a apartment Place clubhouse

1161
00:48:44,510 --> 00:48:43,260
so I went and I said I only knew this

1162
00:48:46,010 --> 00:48:44,520
guy from work and didn't really even

1163
00:48:47,630 --> 00:48:46,020
know him from there

1164
00:48:50,270 --> 00:48:47,640
uh there's a bunch of people in

1165
00:48:52,370 --> 00:48:50,280
attendance and uh some girls came out

1166
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:52,380
with a Ouija board I don't know if if

1167
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,240
somebody brought it if they found it in

1168
00:48:58,730 --> 00:48:56,400
this Clubhouse or whatever so they get

1169
00:49:00,170 --> 00:48:58,740
it out that there's four and they're

1170
00:49:01,370 --> 00:49:00,180
they've got sitting with their knees

1171
00:49:03,530 --> 00:49:01,380
together and they're doing this thing

1172
00:49:05,690 --> 00:49:03,540
and they're going around the room asking

1173
00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:05,700
people different questions

1174
00:49:09,770 --> 00:49:07,440
well they get to me and I thought boy

1175
00:49:11,690 --> 00:49:09,780
I've got one for you and again bear in

1176
00:49:14,329 --> 00:49:11,700
mind I never told that story to anybody

1177
00:49:16,250 --> 00:49:14,339
outside my family I certainly didn't

1178
00:49:19,730 --> 00:49:16,260
tell it to the guy that I worked with or

1179
00:49:21,530 --> 00:49:19,740
anybody in attendance there but they've

1180
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:21,540
got to me

1181
00:49:25,609 --> 00:49:23,520
and I said what scared me when I was a

1182
00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:25,619
child that's it that's the exact words

1183
00:49:30,109 --> 00:49:27,839
so the Ouija board does its thing it

1184
00:49:32,750 --> 00:49:30,119
starts making a figure eight and then it

1185
00:49:35,690 --> 00:49:32,760
spells out W hey

1186
00:49:41,690 --> 00:49:35,700
t e r

1187
00:49:43,849 --> 00:49:41,700
s p r i t e water Sprite

1188
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:43,859
they looked at me I just Shrugged my

1189
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:45,839
shoulders and they started joking well

1190
00:49:50,030 --> 00:49:47,520
maybe the board's thirsty you want some

1191
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:50,040
water and it wants a Sprite hahaha well

1192
00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:52,079
they moved on to somebody else but I

1193
00:49:56,690 --> 00:49:53,520
thought about that this was in the days

1194
00:49:58,069 --> 00:49:56,700
before the internet uh hey kathita Cat

1195
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:58,079
great thanks for popping in she

1196
00:50:00,970 --> 00:49:59,520
spreading my

1197
00:50:03,230 --> 00:50:00,980
um

1198
00:50:04,730 --> 00:50:03,240
the next day that I was off which I

1199
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:04,740
think was the next day

1200
00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:06,720
was why it agreed two years ago the

1201
00:50:10,910 --> 00:50:08,640
party I went to the big library in

1202
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:10,920
downtown Knoxville and I went up to the

1203
00:50:14,450 --> 00:50:13,200
reference librarian and I said what can

1204
00:50:17,690 --> 00:50:14,460
you tell me

1205
00:50:19,609 --> 00:50:17,700
about a water Sprite or a water spirit

1206
00:50:22,010 --> 00:50:19,619
so I sit down at a table she goes off

1207
00:50:23,809 --> 00:50:22,020
into the stacks she comes back in a few

1208
00:50:25,849 --> 00:50:23,819
minutes and has these this big load of

1209
00:50:28,730 --> 00:50:25,859
books and drops them down and she

1210
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:28,740
started showing me these things uh there

1211
00:50:34,670 --> 00:50:31,680
was a I I always get this confused it

1212
00:50:36,170 --> 00:50:34,680
was a nyad and a dryad and I think it

1213
00:50:37,130 --> 00:50:36,180
was the nyad that's the spirit of the

1214
00:50:41,809 --> 00:50:37,140
water

1215
00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:41,819
spirit and then there's a dryad which is

1216
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:44,160
an elemental type creature as well

1217
00:50:47,690 --> 00:50:46,800
that's a guardian of the woods into the

1218
00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:47,700
forest

1219
00:50:51,290 --> 00:50:49,680
and uh

1220
00:50:52,910 --> 00:50:51,300
according to the Ouija board what I

1221
00:50:54,650 --> 00:50:52,920
encountered with that those fall under

1222
00:50:57,170 --> 00:50:54,660
the umbrella of the Faye if you really

1223
00:51:00,170 --> 00:50:57,180
dig into the Fey the fairy folk and the

1224
00:51:01,910 --> 00:51:00,180
hierarchy there Elementals and water and

1225
00:51:03,049 --> 00:51:01,920
wood spirits and Things fall under the

1226
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:03,059
umbrella that

1227
00:51:07,790 --> 00:51:05,760
so according to the Ouija board that was

1228
00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:07,800
funny folk that I encountered and I had

1229
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:10,079
a water spirit or water Sprite

1230
00:51:14,690 --> 00:51:11,760
and I don't know why it didn't like me

1231
00:51:16,010 --> 00:51:14,700
because it never chased anybody else but

1232
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:16,020
for whatever reason it didn't want to be

1233
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:18,000
up there

1234
00:51:23,950 --> 00:51:19,760
true story

1235
00:51:28,549 --> 00:51:26,630
that's that is interesting

1236
00:51:30,950 --> 00:51:28,559
you have to wonder why it singled you

1237
00:51:33,290 --> 00:51:30,960
out that's yeah that's interesting well

1238
00:51:34,970 --> 00:51:33,300
I've always had experiences and stuff I

1239
00:51:37,250 --> 00:51:34,980
made from early early childhood like two

1240
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:37,260
or three years old I saw things I heard

1241
00:51:41,150 --> 00:51:39,119
things I experienced things

1242
00:51:43,730 --> 00:51:41,160
and according to my grandmother on my

1243
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:43,740
mom's side my maternal grandmother who

1244
00:51:47,569 --> 00:51:46,079
described herself as a gypsy witch now I

1245
00:51:50,450 --> 00:51:47,579
don't know where the Gypsy part came

1246
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:50,460
from because she was born in the case

1247
00:51:54,770 --> 00:51:52,800
cover of the Great Smokies but I'm

1248
00:51:56,690 --> 00:51:54,780
thinking somewhere back in the lineage

1249
00:51:57,530 --> 00:51:56,700
there was an old country that they came

1250
00:52:01,010 --> 00:51:57,540
from

1251
00:52:03,770 --> 00:52:01,020
but um according to her she's the most

1252
00:52:05,809 --> 00:52:03,780
superstitious woman I ever met my mom

1253
00:52:09,650 --> 00:52:05,819
had a big family their 10 kids nine

1254
00:52:11,150 --> 00:52:09,660
brothers and and my mom was one girl so

1255
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:11,160
she knew all the boy tricks I couldn't

1256
00:52:15,290 --> 00:52:12,720
get away with anything

1257
00:52:17,329 --> 00:52:15,300
but according to my Gypsy grandmother

1258
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:17,339
now she told fortunes she read tea

1259
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:19,920
leaves and coffee crowns and animal

1260
00:52:23,569 --> 00:52:22,079
entrails phrenology she could tell

1261
00:52:25,490 --> 00:52:23,579
things about your personality but the

1262
00:52:28,910 --> 00:52:25,500
bumps on your head kind of like

1263
00:52:29,630 --> 00:52:28,920
palmistry but with your skull

1264
00:52:32,210 --> 00:52:29,640
um

1265
00:52:34,370 --> 00:52:32,220
out of all those uh Brothers uh there

1266
00:52:36,049 --> 00:52:34,380
was a lot of grandkids all of them were

1267
00:52:37,130 --> 00:52:36,059
married at least once some of them

1268
00:52:39,890 --> 00:52:37,140
several times

1269
00:52:42,170 --> 00:52:39,900
had one Uncle who's uh used to boast

1270
00:52:44,990 --> 00:52:42,180
that he had been married seven times to

1271
00:52:47,150 --> 00:52:45,000
Six Women the only mistake he ever made

1272
00:52:49,250 --> 00:52:47,160
and I was making the same one twice and

1273
00:52:51,170 --> 00:52:49,260
I'm not alone well sounds like you made

1274
00:52:54,170 --> 00:52:51,180
a few mistakes there

1275
00:52:57,890 --> 00:52:54,180
but uh anyway out of all those grandkids

1276
00:52:59,569 --> 00:52:57,900
I was the only one it's a big deal down

1277
00:53:02,809 --> 00:52:59,579
south especially if you're superstitious

1278
00:53:04,910 --> 00:53:02,819
I was born with a veil over my face a

1279
00:53:06,710 --> 00:53:04,920
call they called me a born in call all

1280
00:53:08,329 --> 00:53:06,720
this is the after birth the amniotic

1281
00:53:10,490 --> 00:53:08,339
sack it was still stretched over my head

1282
00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:10,500
when I came out and they had to cut it

1283
00:53:15,049 --> 00:53:12,720
away my granny got it and kept it I

1284
00:53:17,329 --> 00:53:15,059
don't know what she did with it she was

1285
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:17,339
at my birth my mom they knocked her out

1286
00:53:22,430 --> 00:53:19,920
with a Twilight sleep or whatever they

1287
00:53:24,589 --> 00:53:22,440
used to give women back in the 60s but

1288
00:53:25,970 --> 00:53:24,599
uh my my granny with a midwife that if

1289
00:53:28,910 --> 00:53:25,980
they'd let her but they kind of made her

1290
00:53:32,450 --> 00:53:28,920
stay back she she had done that she had

1291
00:53:34,609 --> 00:53:32,460
birth babies but she got that after

1292
00:53:37,069 --> 00:53:34,619
birth the veil in cabinet is supposed to

1293
00:53:39,650 --> 00:53:37,079
have all kinds of powers and stuff but

1294
00:53:42,410 --> 00:53:39,660
in her superstitious mind that marked me

1295
00:53:45,290 --> 00:53:42,420
as a special child I had abilities I had

1296
00:53:47,569 --> 00:53:45,300
six cents I had third eye whatever again

1297
00:53:50,990 --> 00:53:47,579
I don't claim any powers and things but

1298
00:53:53,329 --> 00:53:51,000
I have been very aware of things such a

1299
00:53:55,849 --> 00:53:53,339
young age but uh

1300
00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:55,859
and just because of that and being the

1301
00:54:00,349 --> 00:53:57,839
only one born that way out of dozens and

1302
00:54:04,089 --> 00:54:00,359
dozens of grandkids she kind of took me

1303
00:54:09,950 --> 00:54:06,410
people born with a call over their face

1304
00:54:11,870 --> 00:54:09,960
are said to be psychic so that's what

1305
00:54:14,930 --> 00:54:11,880
she believed she didn't call it psychic

1306
00:54:16,609 --> 00:54:14,940
but and uh she had ways of knowing

1307
00:54:19,130 --> 00:54:16,619
things that that she had no way of

1308
00:54:21,650 --> 00:54:19,140
knowing too she was scary

1309
00:54:24,049 --> 00:54:21,660
uh she looked like a wiz she looked like

1310
00:54:25,809 --> 00:54:24,059
a Grimm brother's fairy tale witch to me

1311
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:25,819
when I was little I was terrified of her

1312
00:54:30,890 --> 00:54:28,800
but uh she passed away when I was 13 I'd

1313
00:54:31,849 --> 00:54:30,900
give anything I had 13 more years with

1314
00:54:38,030 --> 00:54:31,859
her

1315
00:54:39,710 --> 00:54:38,040
funeral to start writing these books and

1316
00:54:41,690 --> 00:54:39,720
cataloging these stories of the weird

1317
00:54:44,270 --> 00:54:41,700
and Supernatural because

1318
00:54:46,609 --> 00:54:44,280
she knew all of them

1319
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:46,619
but uh maybe it was just like a little

1320
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:49,200
nudge from her on the other side I think

1321
00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:50,160
it was

1322
00:54:55,970 --> 00:54:53,520
and uh again she she can read my mind I

1323
00:54:58,730 --> 00:54:55,980
thought it was uh we used to have to

1324
00:55:00,349 --> 00:54:58,740
pass by a house where years before

1325
00:55:02,450 --> 00:55:00,359
kids have been playing in the yard one

1326
00:55:04,250 --> 00:55:02,460
kid chased a ball onto the highway and

1327
00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:04,260
got killed on the spot

1328
00:55:07,609 --> 00:55:06,240
and that had been a cautionary tale for

1329
00:55:09,049 --> 00:55:07,619
me you know that's why you don't chase a

1330
00:55:11,870 --> 00:55:09,059
ball into the street

1331
00:55:13,490 --> 00:55:11,880
but anytime we went by there I could

1332
00:55:15,710 --> 00:55:13,500
could feel something like a little

1333
00:55:17,210 --> 00:55:15,720
tingle or something one particular

1334
00:55:19,130 --> 00:55:17,220
evening we were on the way to Granny's

1335
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:19,140
house mamaw we called I was on the way

1336
00:55:22,370 --> 00:55:20,640
to Mama's house

1337
00:55:24,109 --> 00:55:22,380
and I was laying in the backseat reading

1338
00:55:27,230 --> 00:55:24,119
a comic book this was

1339
00:55:30,349 --> 00:55:27,240
late 60s nobody cared about seat belts

1340
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:30,359
and uh I felt a little tangle and I

1341
00:55:33,890 --> 00:55:31,680
looked up I raised up and looked sure

1342
00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:33,900
enough we're passing by that house so I

1343
00:55:36,650 --> 00:55:35,280
just went back to my comic book didn't

1344
00:55:39,410 --> 00:55:36,660
say a word about it didn't say anything

1345
00:55:41,930 --> 00:55:39,420
to my parents we get there it's about 25

1346
00:55:43,910 --> 00:55:41,940
minute ride my mom data carrying stuff

1347
00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:43,920
in she whisked me off into her quilting

1348
00:55:48,890 --> 00:55:46,079
room she lived in a big old Victorian

1349
00:55:50,690 --> 00:55:48,900
farmhouse in this quilting room had once

1350
00:55:52,130 --> 00:55:50,700
been a formal dining room but she was

1351
00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:52,140
sitting there in the wintertime and

1352
00:55:55,130 --> 00:55:54,000
hand-piece quilts together and that's

1353
00:55:57,710 --> 00:55:55,140
where she would always take because

1354
00:55:59,089 --> 00:55:57,720
she'd go there and draw the curtains so

1355
00:56:02,329 --> 00:55:59,099
they didn't have a door but it hadn't

1356
00:56:04,010 --> 00:56:02,339
curd over the door right and she was

1357
00:56:06,530 --> 00:56:04,020
trying to she would tell me these things

1358
00:56:09,049 --> 00:56:06,540
and teach me these superstitions or

1359
00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:09,059
sayings or how to

1360
00:56:13,190 --> 00:56:11,520
keep good luck coming and how to Ward

1361
00:56:15,290 --> 00:56:13,200
bad luck off how to get rid of the evil

1362
00:56:17,329 --> 00:56:15,300
eye all this and if I could repeat it

1363
00:56:19,690 --> 00:56:17,339
back to her satisfaction she would

1364
00:56:22,370 --> 00:56:19,700
reward me usually with a Hershey bar or

1365
00:56:24,829 --> 00:56:22,380
sometimes a crisp no dollar bill and

1366
00:56:26,329 --> 00:56:24,839
back in the late 60s a dollar bill is a

1367
00:56:28,190 --> 00:56:26,339
lot of money I could buy five or six

1368
00:56:29,450 --> 00:56:28,200
comic books and still have enough for an

1369
00:56:33,530 --> 00:56:29,460
icy

1370
00:56:35,870 --> 00:56:33,540
but uh that's how she bought my silence

1371
00:56:38,450 --> 00:56:35,880
but uh that particular evening she was

1372
00:56:40,370 --> 00:56:38,460
talking to me about how you feel things

1373
00:56:43,309 --> 00:56:40,380
sometimes you just do have a feeling you

1374
00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:43,319
have that gut feeling or whatever and I

1375
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:45,119
was misinterpreting her I was you know I

1376
00:56:49,549 --> 00:56:47,280
was seven years old eight years old

1377
00:56:51,470 --> 00:56:49,559
and I said yeah I feel I have feelings

1378
00:56:54,309 --> 00:56:51,480
you can hurt my feelings you can pinch

1379
00:56:57,829 --> 00:56:54,319
me and I feel that and she said no no no

1380
00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:57,839
she says Stevie I mean you feel things

1381
00:57:02,049 --> 00:57:00,720
like that spot on the highway all the

1382
00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:02,059
way here tonight

1383
00:57:06,950 --> 00:57:04,559
and you could have knocked me over with

1384
00:57:09,470 --> 00:57:06,960
a feather I didn't say a word about that

1385
00:57:12,290 --> 00:57:09,480
to anybody but she's not like scary or

1386
00:57:15,950 --> 00:57:12,300
anything it's like she's in my head she

1387
00:57:18,650 --> 00:57:15,960
can read my mind oh my God but uh I met

1388
00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:18,660
a lady much later in life she was

1389
00:57:22,430 --> 00:57:20,160
elderly at that time she's passed away

1390
00:57:24,829 --> 00:57:22,440
now but when she was in high school her

1391
00:57:26,510 --> 00:57:24,839
and two other girls had walked to go see

1392
00:57:28,790 --> 00:57:26,520
Mama Bessie that's what everybody in the

1393
00:57:31,430 --> 00:57:28,800
community called her to get their

1394
00:57:34,670 --> 00:57:31,440
fortunes told and this particular lady

1395
00:57:36,530 --> 00:57:34,680
her name was Anna said she's deceased

1396
00:57:38,270 --> 00:57:36,540
for years and years now but they were

1397
00:57:40,370 --> 00:57:38,280
they had to walk a couple of miles to

1398
00:57:41,930 --> 00:57:40,380
get to where my grandmother lived and on

1399
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:41,940
the way there Anna's just kind of joking

1400
00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:43,440
with the other girls like I think it's a

1401
00:57:47,630 --> 00:57:45,839
bunch of hooey that a woman's full of it

1402
00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:47,640
I don't believe it I'll go along with it

1403
00:57:52,190 --> 00:57:50,160
but I'm not going to put any stock in it

1404
00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:52,200
well they get there they knock on the

1405
00:57:55,790 --> 00:57:53,760
door my Grandma comes to the door and

1406
00:57:57,170 --> 00:57:55,800
Grandma Bessie we're here to get our

1407
00:57:59,210 --> 00:57:57,180
fortunes told

1408
00:58:01,790 --> 00:57:59,220
and she looks them over and she says

1409
00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:01,800
I'll tell your fortune and I'll tell

1410
00:58:05,690 --> 00:58:04,079
your fortune but I won't tell yours

1411
00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:05,700
because you don't believe me and you

1412
00:58:10,670 --> 00:58:08,000
mocked me

1413
00:58:12,650 --> 00:58:10,680
and Anna said the same thing as me I

1414
00:58:14,270 --> 00:58:12,660
said I could have I wanted to dig a hole

1415
00:58:15,530 --> 00:58:14,280
and crawl in it there's no way she could

1416
00:58:17,870 --> 00:58:15,540
have heard what I said because we were

1417
00:58:21,910 --> 00:58:17,880
miles away and on the way there when I

1418
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:21,920
said that but somehow she knew who knows

1419
00:58:27,530 --> 00:58:24,960
but uh she she had powers that's very

1420
00:58:29,569 --> 00:58:27,540
good she must have been very good

1421
00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:29,579
well I talked about her reading animal

1422
00:58:37,789 --> 00:58:31,760
entrails

1423
00:58:40,789 --> 00:58:37,799
from her yeah uh I would too now but uh

1424
00:58:42,589 --> 00:58:40,799
they had a dairy farm and they also uh

1425
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:42,599
truck formed they raised produce and

1426
00:58:47,569 --> 00:58:46,079
then they also raised uh Hogs and every

1427
00:58:50,150 --> 00:58:47,579
year in the fall when they slaughtered

1428
00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:50,160
Hogs she would pick out one that she

1429
00:58:53,870 --> 00:58:51,359
called hers

1430
00:58:56,210 --> 00:58:53,880
and when they slaughtered that one she

1431
00:58:58,970 --> 00:58:56,220
would poke around in its entrails with a

1432
00:59:01,309 --> 00:58:58,980
stick and then she would predict what

1433
00:59:03,829 --> 00:59:01,319
next year's crop season would be like

1434
00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:03,839
like no corn ain't gonna be no good this

1435
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:07,680
year but tobacco looks good and and my

1436
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:11,280
uncle's swore that she was more accurate

1437
00:59:16,190 --> 00:59:14,400
to the Old Farmer's Almanac which people

1438
00:59:18,530 --> 00:59:16,200
in the South if you are a farmer you

1439
00:59:20,809 --> 00:59:18,540
lived and died by that book

1440
00:59:22,910 --> 00:59:20,819
and at their house even it hung on a

1441
00:59:25,130 --> 00:59:22,920
nail in the kitchen they'd be sitting

1442
00:59:26,809 --> 00:59:25,140
around the table having dinner and they

1443
00:59:29,210 --> 00:59:26,819
would pull that down and look at things

1444
00:59:30,829 --> 00:59:29,220
in the Old Farmer's Almanac but

1445
00:59:32,710 --> 00:59:30,839
according to my uncle she was more

1446
00:59:35,390 --> 00:59:32,720
accurate to the Old Farmers Almanac so

1447
00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:35,400
whatever gifts or power she had she was

1448
00:59:43,849 --> 00:59:41,089
yeah she sounds like an amazing woman

1449
00:59:46,490 --> 00:59:43,859
she really does she was like I said I

1450
00:59:50,210 --> 00:59:46,500
just I wish I had been so scared of her

1451
00:59:51,650 --> 00:59:50,220
when I was uh when I was younger

1452
00:59:53,870 --> 00:59:51,660
and I get ready Progressive they

1453
00:59:55,730 --> 00:59:53,880
slaughtered those in the fall after the

1454
00:59:58,010 --> 00:59:55,740
first Frost I don't know but maybe

1455
00:59:59,870 --> 00:59:58,020
that's just the way they did it but

1456
01:00:03,349 --> 00:59:59,880
after the first Frost was when they saw

1457
01:00:05,329 --> 01:00:03,359
their dogs the first hard hard Frost

1458
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:05,339
uh somebody's asking us a missing person

1459
01:00:10,010 --> 01:00:08,400
number and yes I I believe it has I

1460
01:00:12,770 --> 01:00:10,020
don't have any figures in front of me I

1461
01:00:15,890 --> 01:00:12,780
don't know if it's risen that much or if

1462
01:00:17,210 --> 01:00:15,900
we're just more aware of it but I looked

1463
01:00:18,109 --> 01:00:17,220
it up here earlier when I saw that

1464
01:00:19,609 --> 01:00:18,119
question

1465
01:00:21,170 --> 01:00:19,619
according to the National Crime

1466
01:00:24,049 --> 01:00:21,180
information center missing person has

1467
01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:24,059
identified missing person files

1468
01:00:30,010 --> 01:00:27,200
for the 2021 operational year

1469
01:00:32,870 --> 01:00:30,020
521

1470
01:00:34,430 --> 01:00:32,880
74705 people were reported missing in

1471
01:00:37,549 --> 01:00:34,440
2021.

1472
01:00:40,250 --> 01:00:37,559
moreover 93 000 of those who remained

1473
01:00:43,370 --> 01:00:40,260
actively missing at the start of 2022.

1474
01:00:44,870 --> 01:00:43,380
so it looks like it is going up now some

1475
01:00:47,450 --> 01:00:44,880
of those figures can be misleading

1476
01:00:49,069 --> 01:00:47,460
because they count runaways people that

1477
01:00:51,349 --> 01:00:49,079
have disappeared multiple times people

1478
01:00:54,890 --> 01:00:51,359
that are found will still be in there

1479
01:00:56,510 --> 01:00:54,900
sometimes it seems to be going up but

1480
01:00:58,510 --> 01:00:56,520
again

1481
01:01:01,250 --> 01:00:58,520
who's to say

1482
01:01:03,349 --> 01:01:01,260
excuse me yeah

1483
01:01:06,890 --> 01:01:03,359
because the misreporting the linkage

1484
01:01:08,569 --> 01:01:06,900
blindness between agencies and stuff uh

1485
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:08,579
yeah that that would be a good one to do

1486
01:01:14,210 --> 01:01:11,040
I've talked to a lot of people that have

1487
01:01:15,950 --> 01:01:14,220
worked in those uh fields that have uh

1488
01:01:19,250 --> 01:01:15,960
ghost stories and paranormal encounters

1489
01:01:22,130 --> 01:01:19,260
and stuff uh my daughter's mother was a

1490
01:01:24,589 --> 01:01:22,140
an RN and she worked in emergency rooms

1491
01:01:27,829 --> 01:01:24,599
and stuff she's awesome stuff same with

1492
01:01:29,150 --> 01:01:27,839
First Responders police officers uh that

1493
01:01:34,329 --> 01:01:29,160
that would be that there's probably a

1494
01:01:41,089 --> 01:01:38,690
and so the stories she told me were just

1495
01:01:43,789 --> 01:01:41,099
crazy from the hospital that's amazing

1496
01:01:45,770 --> 01:01:43,799
and all those people will tell you that

1497
01:01:47,930 --> 01:01:45,780
it's worse during a full moon too

1498
01:01:50,990 --> 01:01:47,940
people get crazier during a full moon

1499
01:01:53,569 --> 01:01:51,000
that's where you get lunatic but a same

1500
01:01:54,609 --> 01:01:53,579
person is also asking uh to use any

1501
01:01:57,349 --> 01:01:54,619
definition

1502
01:01:58,910 --> 01:01:57,359
it's easy for me to say intimidation

1503
01:02:00,049 --> 01:01:58,920
techniques in your work you learn from

1504
01:02:02,750 --> 01:02:00,059
your grandmother

1505
01:02:05,390 --> 01:02:02,760
not really I've done uh I can do the

1506
01:02:09,349 --> 01:02:05,400
pyramids or the pendulum psychometry

1507
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:09,359
I've tried that like map dowsing to as

1508
01:02:13,549 --> 01:02:11,520
far as locating missing people but I

1509
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:13,559
haven't had much success with it I do

1510
01:02:17,089 --> 01:02:15,359
have dreams about

1511
01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:17,099
where people could be found but that's

1512
01:02:21,589 --> 01:02:18,000
one of those things you have to be

1513
01:02:22,789 --> 01:02:21,599
careful with uh I read about a case one

1514
01:02:24,589 --> 01:02:22,799
million poor lady that was so

1515
01:02:26,809 --> 01:02:24,599
purportedly psychic

1516
01:02:28,569 --> 01:02:26,819
had a vision of where this person would

1517
01:02:32,329 --> 01:02:28,579
be found and she reported to the police

1518
01:02:34,010 --> 01:02:32,339
the person was deceased found exactly or

1519
01:02:36,530 --> 01:02:34,020
she described exactly in the position

1520
01:02:38,089 --> 01:02:36,540
she described and everything and they

1521
01:02:39,650 --> 01:02:38,099
actually took her in and questioned her

1522
01:02:41,750 --> 01:02:39,660
as a suspect

1523
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:41,760
I mean you're telling all this to police

1524
01:02:46,450 --> 01:02:44,400
and you pinpoint it exactly and then it

1525
01:02:49,250 --> 01:02:46,460
makes you look like a suspect

1526
01:02:52,309 --> 01:02:49,260
but uh I've tried pedal knocking water

1527
01:02:55,069 --> 01:02:52,319
now so water witch I could find water

1528
01:02:57,349 --> 01:02:55,079
with a willow uh Branch my dad taught me

1529
01:03:00,410 --> 01:02:57,359
how to do that he was good at it and I

1530
01:03:02,870 --> 01:03:00,420
tried for not to work I held that Branch

1531
01:03:05,150 --> 01:03:02,880
just as tight as I possibly could with

1532
01:03:08,030 --> 01:03:05,160
the fork of that was pointing down so

1533
01:03:10,130 --> 01:03:08,040
hard it was green I just cut it the fork

1534
01:03:12,170 --> 01:03:10,140
of that Branch dipped down or the the

1535
01:03:14,030 --> 01:03:12,180
point of that Branch I was holding the

1536
01:03:16,970 --> 01:03:14,040
fork there's a certain way you have to

1537
01:03:19,190 --> 01:03:16,980
hold it but it it pulled the bark off in

1538
01:03:21,049 --> 01:03:19,200
my hands that's how determined it was to

1539
01:03:23,650 --> 01:03:21,059
point down but I'm trying everything I

1540
01:03:27,049 --> 01:03:23,660
can do to keep it held up

1541
01:03:28,849 --> 01:03:27,059
but uh I can also uh I used to read

1542
01:03:31,309 --> 01:03:28,859
cards I could read tarot cards but I

1543
01:03:33,470 --> 01:03:31,319
don't do it anymore there's there's uh

1544
01:03:35,150 --> 01:03:33,480
some bad karma some negative energy or

1545
01:03:36,770 --> 01:03:35,160
something that goes along with that now

1546
01:03:38,750 --> 01:03:36,780
the oracle cards I could do those and

1547
01:03:40,730 --> 01:03:38,760
they don't seem to bother me but uh my

1548
01:03:43,309 --> 01:03:40,740
grandmother would not touch tarot cards

1549
01:03:45,530 --> 01:03:43,319
she had she took just a regular deck of

1550
01:03:47,990 --> 01:03:45,540
playing cards and added her own images

1551
01:03:50,390 --> 01:03:48,000
to them which is basically what a linner

1552
01:03:52,910 --> 01:03:50,400
mod deck is if you know about card

1553
01:03:54,349 --> 01:03:52,920
readings but uh she liked just the old

1554
01:03:57,470 --> 01:03:54,359
playing cards

1555
01:03:59,329 --> 01:03:57,480
and uh I had good success with those and

1556
01:04:01,789 --> 01:03:59,339
like I said I could read the tarot a lot

1557
01:04:04,309 --> 01:04:01,799
of times I didn't even need the cards uh

1558
01:04:06,109 --> 01:04:04,319
I used to read for people and I had a

1559
01:04:08,089 --> 01:04:06,119
girl walk in my door one time and I

1560
01:04:09,530 --> 01:04:08,099
didn't let her get all the way in I'm

1561
01:04:11,329 --> 01:04:09,540
like I don't need to read the cards he's

1562
01:04:13,490 --> 01:04:11,339
cheating on you and she's just like

1563
01:04:15,170 --> 01:04:13,500
how'd you know what I was gonna ask it's

1564
01:04:18,049 --> 01:04:15,180
just it was written all over your face

1565
01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:18,059
of course a lot of that is just a skill

1566
01:04:22,609 --> 01:04:20,160
of observing people and body language

1567
01:04:24,890 --> 01:04:22,619
and I'm cold read a person you think I

1568
01:04:26,270 --> 01:04:24,900
can read you mine but I'm just it's like

1569
01:04:28,490 --> 01:04:26,280
these guys that play poker

1570
01:04:30,530 --> 01:04:28,500
professionally there's tales that you

1571
01:04:32,089 --> 01:04:30,540
look for in people it's the same way

1572
01:04:34,190 --> 01:04:32,099
with reading people and their

1573
01:04:35,990 --> 01:04:34,200
personality it's not a parlor trick or

1574
01:04:39,109 --> 01:04:36,000
something it's just something I know how

1575
01:04:39,119 --> 01:05:07,450
foreign

1576
01:05:11,690 --> 01:05:10,609
I put myself to sleep before editing

1577
01:05:14,270 --> 01:05:11,700
audio

1578
01:05:16,370 --> 01:05:14,280
listening to myself the playback I've

1579
01:05:18,589 --> 01:05:16,380
dozed off at my keyboard and listened to

1580
01:05:21,530 --> 01:05:18,599
me drawn on and on

1581
01:05:22,970 --> 01:05:21,540
but no it's not you so if I look sort of

1582
01:05:24,049 --> 01:05:22,980
Frozen I probably have because I've been

1583
01:05:25,370 --> 01:05:24,059
having a little trouble with our

1584
01:05:28,609 --> 01:05:25,380
internet

1585
01:05:31,549 --> 01:05:28,619
um no I I return cards as well I do the

1586
01:05:33,410 --> 01:05:31,559
Gypsy witch cards mostly and I'm

1587
01:05:36,109 --> 01:05:33,420
familiar I've got my grandmother had

1588
01:05:37,970 --> 01:05:36,119
those two I've got the deck that that

1589
01:05:39,829 --> 01:05:37,980
she bought back in the 20s or the 30s

1590
01:05:41,569 --> 01:05:39,839
those have been around that long maybe

1591
01:05:43,309 --> 01:05:41,579
that's where she got the Gypsy witch

1592
01:05:46,730 --> 01:05:43,319
thing but I love those cards I've got

1593
01:05:48,109 --> 01:05:46,740
her deck I've got it wrapped in uh a

1594
01:05:50,690 --> 01:05:48,119
piece of velvet and put away I don't

1595
01:05:52,849 --> 01:05:50,700
don't touch or handle those but I've got

1596
01:05:55,670 --> 01:05:52,859
a new the newer version of those but

1597
01:05:58,490 --> 01:05:55,680
I've got her original cards

1598
01:06:00,410 --> 01:05:58,500
yeah my original cards like we had moved

1599
01:06:02,150 --> 01:06:00,420
a few times I had lost those so I have a

1600
01:06:05,150 --> 01:06:02,160
newer deck but I'm still very good at

1601
01:06:06,829 --> 01:06:05,160
those I had um these are my mom's cards

1602
01:06:08,450 --> 01:06:06,839
that I had taken when I first got into

1603
01:06:12,349 --> 01:06:08,460
reading

1604
01:06:14,390 --> 01:06:12,359
they were Lenore Monday cards and

1605
01:06:17,890 --> 01:06:14,400
they're very little and they have like a

1606
01:06:21,109 --> 01:06:17,900
rhyme on them so yeah

1607
01:06:22,430 --> 01:06:21,119
anytime I would do them yeah anytime I

1608
01:06:26,089 --> 01:06:22,440
would do these cards they would always

1609
01:06:28,370 --> 01:06:26,099
tell me bad things every time and then

1610
01:06:30,109 --> 01:06:28,380
there's a negative attractions to stuff

1611
01:06:33,049 --> 01:06:30,119
like that that's why I had to quit tarot

1612
01:06:34,910 --> 01:06:33,059
I started having these dreams where I

1613
01:06:37,370 --> 01:06:34,920
was standing on the beach and there was

1614
01:06:40,549 --> 01:06:37,380
this black wave of water but it was

1615
01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:40,559
frozen and it's I mean 50 feet tall and

1616
01:06:44,450 --> 01:06:42,240
I'm standing there about this big on the

1617
01:06:46,849 --> 01:06:44,460
beach and I'm thinking when that wave

1618
01:06:49,250 --> 01:06:46,859
falls out it's gonna pound me down into

1619
01:06:51,109 --> 01:06:49,260
the sand but it was Pitch Black and it

1620
01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:51,119
was all this negativity that I was

1621
01:06:55,670 --> 01:06:53,280
negative energy that was somehow getting

1622
01:06:58,970 --> 01:06:55,680
off these people that I was reading for

1623
01:07:00,770 --> 01:06:58,980
guess I had to quit doing it but uh suji

1624
01:07:02,630 --> 01:07:00,780
says the cards are just a tool you use

1625
01:07:04,490 --> 01:07:02,640
to learn to folk after a while you don't

1626
01:07:08,089 --> 01:07:04,500
need the cards anymore that is

1627
01:07:10,849 --> 01:07:08,099
absolutely true to me the cards were a

1628
01:07:13,190 --> 01:07:10,859
concrete tool to express an abstract

1629
01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:13,200
concept to another person I mean if you

1630
01:07:15,710 --> 01:07:14,640
walk in and I'm just telling you these

1631
01:07:18,049 --> 01:07:15,720
things you're thinking yeah right he's

1632
01:07:21,349 --> 01:07:18,059
full of crap but if I sit down and I do

1633
01:07:23,029 --> 01:07:21,359
a certain layout uh Celtic cross or

1634
01:07:25,789 --> 01:07:23,039
something and it shows up in the cards

1635
01:07:27,829 --> 01:07:25,799
not only validates not only validates

1636
01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:27,839
what I knew but it shows it to the

1637
01:07:33,470 --> 01:07:30,240
person in a way that they can believe so

1638
01:07:36,829 --> 01:07:33,480
you are absolutely correct that

1639
01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:36,839
yeah those Lenore cards or little

1640
01:07:41,630 --> 01:07:38,640
Normandy cards I think they were just

1641
01:07:44,210 --> 01:07:41,640
mischievous cards like they just they

1642
01:07:47,390 --> 01:07:44,220
always did that before I would go the

1643
01:07:49,370 --> 01:07:47,400
first deck I ever bought was nothing but

1644
01:07:51,289 --> 01:07:49,380
bad luck with it and I was working a

1645
01:07:53,150 --> 01:07:51,299
public job at the time I lost my job I

1646
01:07:56,029 --> 01:07:53,160
had to move to another house I got rid

1647
01:07:58,490 --> 01:07:56,039
of that deck and uh that then everything

1648
01:08:00,470 --> 01:07:58,500
kind of turned around and I've had decks

1649
01:08:01,730 --> 01:08:00,480
since then that haven't bother me but

1650
01:08:04,069 --> 01:08:01,740
there's something about that one

1651
01:08:06,289 --> 01:08:04,079
particular day and it was a new deck I

1652
01:08:08,270 --> 01:08:06,299
mean I would never buy a used deck of

1653
01:08:10,069 --> 01:08:08,280
cards that people do you can cleanse

1654
01:08:12,049 --> 01:08:10,079
them you can Sage them smudge them storm

1655
01:08:13,849 --> 01:08:12,059
with crystals and clean anything off of

1656
01:08:16,130 --> 01:08:13,859
them that's ever been there and I do

1657
01:08:18,890 --> 01:08:16,140
that with a new deck anyway and then I

1658
01:08:21,890 --> 01:08:18,900
cleaned my own sometimes as to you want

1659
01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:21,900
to get your own uh whatever leftovers

1660
01:08:34,010 --> 01:08:31,789
wire he could find an underground pipe

1661
01:08:35,990 --> 01:08:34,020
he could find water he didn't he didn't

1662
01:08:38,329 --> 01:08:36,000
need anything really other than some

1663
01:08:39,890 --> 01:08:38,339
type of wire some type of I had the rods

1664
01:08:42,530 --> 01:08:39,900
I had professional rods made out of

1665
01:08:44,570 --> 01:08:42,540
brass and copper but he could do just as

1666
01:08:46,729 --> 01:08:44,580
well if not better with two bed coat

1667
01:08:48,590 --> 01:08:46,739
hangers so I'm sorry I keep talking I

1668
01:08:51,169 --> 01:08:48,600
hope you burned it there's a there's a

1669
01:08:54,769 --> 01:08:51,179
delay there sometimes at night and I

1670
01:08:54,779 --> 01:08:59,749
Oh no you're fun it's okay

1671
01:09:04,010 --> 01:09:02,990
you're the host you graciously had me in

1672
01:09:06,709 --> 01:09:04,020
here I'm not going to come into your

1673
01:09:08,209 --> 01:09:06,719
house and put my feet on the furniture

1674
01:09:10,309 --> 01:09:08,219
oh it's fun

1675
01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:10,319
I would wouldn't care if you did trust

1676
01:09:18,650 --> 01:09:16,610
um so do it I'm going to put this up

1677
01:09:21,530 --> 01:09:18,660
because somebody how about you tell

1678
01:09:24,110 --> 01:09:21,540
every second uh the the easiest way that

1679
01:09:25,610 --> 01:09:24,120
I've got a lake tree uh I think that you

1680
01:09:27,890 --> 01:09:25,620
pin that in the chatter just put it in

1681
01:09:30,530 --> 01:09:27,900
the chat but that's the easiest way to

1682
01:09:32,329 --> 01:09:30,540
find me I've got uh five new channels

1683
01:09:34,610 --> 01:09:32,339
well at the very top but I'm gonna also

1684
01:09:36,169 --> 01:09:34,620
put these up too yeah there's a true

1685
01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:36,179
crime breakdown that one's just getting

1686
01:09:40,249 --> 01:09:38,880
started uh here's my like tree well I'm

1687
01:09:41,870 --> 01:09:40,259
gonna let me put it in the chat but

1688
01:09:45,650 --> 01:09:41,880
maybe somebody can approve that there

1689
01:09:47,450 --> 01:09:45,660
it'll hold it go ahead yeah but uh among

1690
01:09:49,249 --> 01:09:47,460
the missing is my missing person Channel

1691
01:09:51,829 --> 01:09:49,259
that's one that's really blasted off

1692
01:09:54,350 --> 01:09:51,839
about six weeks I've already got over 61

1693
01:09:56,209 --> 01:09:54,360
000 subs thank you everybody and that

1694
01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:56,219
was I mean I took that other channel I

1695
01:09:59,750 --> 01:09:57,840
started over there didn't even have ten

1696
01:10:01,250 --> 01:09:59,760
thousand I don't think in about two

1697
01:10:03,229 --> 01:10:01,260
years time I built that to over a

1698
01:10:05,810 --> 01:10:03,239
quarter million with people were there

1699
01:10:07,430 --> 01:10:05,820
to hear me and uh the way it went down

1700
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:07,440
that was my biggest regret I never got

1701
01:10:11,270 --> 01:10:09,840
to tell anybody bye nobody was ever told

1702
01:10:13,490 --> 01:10:11,280
her they could find anything and there's

1703
01:10:15,410 --> 01:10:13,500
just been through blind look and a red

1704
01:10:18,410 --> 01:10:15,420
and thread that I have those 60 thousand

1705
01:10:20,689 --> 01:10:18,420
but I'll have a lot more once people

1706
01:10:23,570 --> 01:10:20,699
find out where I'm at so spread the word

1707
01:10:25,310 --> 01:10:23,580
there help me out I appreciate it uh 13

1708
01:10:27,950 --> 01:10:25,320
past midnight that's my paranormal

1709
01:10:29,810 --> 01:10:27,960
channel uh saucer cult that's my UFO

1710
01:10:30,350 --> 01:10:29,820
Channel

1711
01:10:33,050 --> 01:10:30,360
um

1712
01:10:34,910 --> 01:10:33,060
I have to think so I'm doing this is all

1713
01:10:37,550 --> 01:10:34,920
a one-man show I do everything he said

1714
01:10:39,050 --> 01:10:37,560
except the writing and then my fiance

1715
01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:39,060
helps me with some of the back office

1716
01:10:42,410 --> 01:10:40,080
stuff

1717
01:10:44,810 --> 01:10:42,420
uh but um

1718
01:10:48,050 --> 01:10:44,820
Insomniac Radio Theater that's that's

1719
01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:50,750
uh among the missing uh True Crime

1720
01:10:55,130 --> 01:10:53,520
breakdown 13 past midnight Insomniac

1721
01:10:57,649 --> 01:10:55,140
Radio Theater South Circle yeah that's

1722
01:10:59,450 --> 01:10:57,659
fine and I've actually got a comedy

1723
01:11:00,770 --> 01:10:59,460
channel waiting in the wings but that's

1724
01:11:02,570 --> 01:11:00,780
for another time

1725
01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:02,580
thank you for doing that I appreciate

1726
01:11:07,610 --> 01:11:05,280
that come check me out you can subscribe

1727
01:11:09,290 --> 01:11:07,620
to that link tree because I'm going to

1728
01:11:11,270 --> 01:11:09,300
be adding more stuff and if you

1729
01:11:13,189 --> 01:11:11,280
subscribe to it don't cost a thing but

1730
01:11:15,110 --> 01:11:13,199
every time I add a new link it'll update

1731
01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:15,120
you so that's that's the easiest way to

1732
01:11:18,169 --> 01:11:16,320
find me

1733
01:11:20,270 --> 01:11:18,179
and I'm all over the internet I I

1734
01:11:21,649 --> 01:11:20,280
guessed on a lot of shows like this this

1735
01:11:23,570 --> 01:11:21,659
wonderful one here this one of my

1736
01:11:25,310 --> 01:11:23,580
favorites I was on Bernadette's

1737
01:11:27,649 --> 01:11:25,320
inaugural show I didn't didn't know it

1738
01:11:28,970 --> 01:11:27,659
at the time thank you but uh she'd asked

1739
01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:28,980
me to come on I'm like yeah sure and

1740
01:11:32,030 --> 01:11:30,719
then I wasn't until I got here and I

1741
01:11:34,430 --> 01:11:32,040
found out it was your very first show

1742
01:11:36,770 --> 01:11:34,440
and I felt so honored

1743
01:11:40,490 --> 01:11:36,780
that made me very happy

1744
01:11:42,890 --> 01:11:40,500
I I was excited yeah I was very excited

1745
01:11:44,350 --> 01:11:42,900
well I'm good friends with Juan and it

1746
01:11:47,810 --> 01:11:44,360
is

1747
01:11:49,130 --> 01:11:47,820
if you're if Lon thinks you're good

1748
01:11:50,510 --> 01:11:49,140
people that I think you're good people

1749
01:11:52,610 --> 01:11:50,520
too

1750
01:11:55,669 --> 01:11:52,620
and you are and I enjoy coming on

1751
01:11:57,229 --> 01:11:55,679
talking with you and I apologize that I

1752
01:11:58,850 --> 01:11:57,239
do most of the talk and that's it's easy

1753
01:12:00,890 --> 01:11:58,860
to give a talk the hard things get me to

1754
01:12:02,570 --> 01:12:00,900
shut up

1755
01:12:04,250 --> 01:12:02,580
but that's why a lot of people like to

1756
01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:04,260
have me as a guest I think we all love

1757
01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:06,960
that you talk you just you wipe me up

1758
01:12:10,010 --> 01:12:08,400
and let me go put a microphone in front

1759
01:12:15,590 --> 01:12:10,020
of me then that's you have to meet with

1760
01:12:20,149 --> 01:12:17,570
one more question if you don't mind

1761
01:12:21,950 --> 01:12:20,159
saying it before you die oh I've had

1762
01:12:23,590 --> 01:12:21,960
what I believe to be Bigfoot sightings

1763
01:12:26,209 --> 01:12:23,600
when I lived in the Pacific Northwest

1764
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:26,219
but not in the area that I grew up in

1765
01:12:30,890 --> 01:12:28,320
although that part of East Tennessee

1766
01:12:32,990 --> 01:12:30,900
there was some what I believe to be

1767
01:12:34,250 --> 01:12:33,000
Bigfoot sightings but it happened to my

1768
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:34,260
brother and one of the guys he was out

1769
01:12:39,649 --> 01:12:37,920
hunting with when I that's in uh that's

1770
01:12:41,750 --> 01:12:39,659
in uh strange things in the woods that

1771
01:12:43,490 --> 01:12:41,760
was my first book and stories from

1772
01:12:45,770 --> 01:12:43,500
friends and family friends and family

1773
01:12:47,330 --> 01:12:45,780
and things a paranormal for the most

1774
01:12:49,550 --> 01:12:47,340
part there's some that are poignant some

1775
01:12:52,430 --> 01:12:49,560
that are funny but it has that common

1776
01:12:54,649 --> 01:12:52,440
theme of being in the woods and strange

1777
01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:54,659
and subjective but uh that story's in

1778
01:12:58,729 --> 01:12:56,400
there

1779
01:13:00,830 --> 01:12:58,739
if you find those on Amazon and whoever

1780
01:13:04,030 --> 01:13:00,840
find books are sold my publisher likes

1781
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:04,040
me to say that yeah

1782
01:13:09,770 --> 01:13:06,480
do you have do you have an audiobook do

1783
01:13:12,410 --> 01:13:09,780
you have audio books uh I do but that's

1784
01:13:13,910 --> 01:13:12,420
people get upset about that my publisher

1785
01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:13,920
when I went with a traditional publisher

1786
01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:15,600
they didn't know that I did the

1787
01:13:19,970 --> 01:13:18,000
narration and stuff and my publisher

1788
01:13:21,050 --> 01:13:19,980
messaged me one day one of the partners

1789
01:13:22,910 --> 01:13:21,060
and said

1790
01:13:24,709 --> 01:13:22,920
Steve we found the perfect guy to

1791
01:13:27,530 --> 01:13:24,719
narrate your audiobooks and I'm like oh

1792
01:13:29,270 --> 01:13:27,540
really and uh I didn't say anything I

1793
01:13:31,850 --> 01:13:29,280
just let them do and because less work

1794
01:13:34,970 --> 01:13:31,860
for me but I've had so many people jump

1795
01:13:36,530 --> 01:13:34,980
in my business and say Steve how about

1796
01:13:40,070 --> 01:13:36,540
your audiobook and it's not even you

1797
01:13:42,709 --> 01:13:40,080
what the hewl is that all about but uh

1798
01:13:45,470 --> 01:13:42,719
don't tell my publisher but all the

1799
01:13:47,570 --> 01:13:45,480
stories out of uh most of the stories

1800
01:13:49,729 --> 01:13:47,580
out of strange things in the woods and

1801
01:13:51,470 --> 01:13:49,739
My Strange World I've narrated them over

1802
01:13:56,030 --> 01:13:51,480
on 13 past midnight you can find them

1803
01:13:59,689 --> 01:13:58,070
perfect so if we want to hear you

1804
01:14:02,229 --> 01:13:59,699
narrate your own book we got to go over

1805
01:14:05,330 --> 01:14:02,239
there that's perfect go over to 13.

1806
01:14:07,189 --> 01:14:05,340
now I know how to hear you do it and uh

1807
01:14:10,729 --> 01:14:07,199
they've offered to let me redo them and

1808
01:14:14,810 --> 01:14:13,189
okay

1809
01:14:17,149 --> 01:14:14,820
oh great

1810
01:14:18,770 --> 01:14:17,159
I I tend to agree with her a three-hour

1811
01:14:21,770 --> 01:14:18,780
interview with you would be wonderful

1812
01:14:23,689 --> 01:14:21,780
but it's like tonight probably isn't a

1813
01:14:25,490 --> 01:14:23,699
good night tonight's probably not the

1814
01:14:26,890 --> 01:14:25,500
best night but I'd love to come back and

1815
01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:26,900
I've already done an hour and a half

1816
01:14:31,790 --> 01:14:29,760
other places but uh I've done three

1817
01:14:32,990 --> 01:14:31,800
hours and more before Cisco Murdock and

1818
01:14:36,169 --> 01:14:33,000
Iowa from Journey Through the gay

1819
01:14:38,090 --> 01:14:36,179
paranormal portal podcast yeah uh three

1820
01:14:40,490 --> 01:14:38,100
hours we're just getting warmed up she's

1821
01:14:42,890 --> 01:14:40,500
a as much of a talker as I am so I'd

1822
01:14:44,990 --> 01:14:42,900
love to come back and uh do a longer

1823
01:14:47,330 --> 01:14:45,000
format show with you I've got a million

1824
01:14:49,189 --> 01:14:47,340
stories to tell I'm a rack on tour I'm a

1825
01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:49,199
Storyteller it's what I do

1826
01:14:55,370 --> 01:14:51,840
I would love that

1827
01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:55,380
you know I have this baby you could come

1828
01:15:00,110 --> 01:14:57,360
back and you know be maybe one of my

1829
01:15:02,750 --> 01:15:00,120
last guests so until I come back yeah

1830
01:15:04,729 --> 01:15:02,760
I'd love to do that so let me know I

1831
01:15:06,830 --> 01:15:04,739
don't know and if that doesn't happen

1832
01:15:09,229 --> 01:15:06,840
then best wishes and uh I'll be

1833
01:15:10,910 --> 01:15:09,239
following you on Facebook to

1834
01:15:13,070 --> 01:15:10,920
to make sure everything's okay but yeah

1835
01:15:15,890 --> 01:15:13,080
just anytime you want me to come back uh

1836
01:15:18,110 --> 01:15:15,900
okay just uh message me ahead of time

1837
01:15:20,750 --> 01:15:18,120
and we'll set it up

1838
01:15:23,950 --> 01:15:20,760
always a pleasure okay perfect thank you

1839
01:15:27,290 --> 01:15:23,960
so much thank you so much again

1840
01:15:29,390 --> 01:15:27,300
thank you let us know uh I think that's

1841
01:15:33,530 --> 01:15:29,400
it for now they've got more books in the

1842
01:15:41,750 --> 01:15:33,540
way and uh because life is good

1843
01:15:46,130 --> 01:15:44,149
well thank you congratulations to the

1844
01:15:48,590 --> 01:15:46,140
wedding that's that's the big thing yeah

1845
01:15:51,169 --> 01:15:48,600
that's I can't wait uh we haven't set a

1846
01:15:53,870 --> 01:15:51,179
date yet but we're considering Halloween

1847
01:15:55,790 --> 01:15:53,880
which is my birthday and in Salem

1848
01:15:57,709 --> 01:15:55,800
Massachusetts what better place to spend

1849
01:16:00,050 --> 01:15:57,719
Halloween and to get married

1850
01:16:03,229 --> 01:16:00,060
uh at night we want to have a nighttime

1851
01:16:05,630 --> 01:16:03,239
ceremony uh she's gonna wear black it's

1852
01:16:08,930 --> 01:16:05,640
her first marriage but she wanted to

1853
01:16:09,890 --> 01:16:08,940
wear black she's kind of gothy like I am

1854
01:16:11,990 --> 01:16:09,900
so

1855
01:16:15,229 --> 01:16:12,000
uh I'm gonna have an all-black wedding

1856
01:16:18,229 --> 01:16:15,239
so get married in black and on Halloween

1857
01:16:19,370 --> 01:16:18,239
and Salem Mass and it's going to be on

1858
01:16:22,070 --> 01:16:19,380
YouTube we're going to have a YouTube

1859
01:16:24,130 --> 01:16:22,080
wedding so uh

1860
01:16:26,209 --> 01:16:24,140
watch the space

1861
01:16:28,090 --> 01:16:26,219
we're gonna have a little private

1862
01:16:30,770 --> 01:16:28,100
ceremony

1863
01:16:33,410 --> 01:16:30,780
but then we're gonna do a YouTube thing

1864
01:16:35,930 --> 01:16:33,420
as well there's uh she's always wanted

1865
01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:35,940
to do that and I have and uh

1866
01:16:40,550 --> 01:16:38,640
so why not it's the first for her and

1867
01:16:43,189 --> 01:16:40,560
hopefully the last and it's definitely

1868
01:16:46,610 --> 01:16:43,199
my last if if this doesn't work out for

1869
01:16:48,410 --> 01:16:46,620
whatever reason I will die alone I'd

1870
01:16:51,169 --> 01:16:48,420
said I'll never get married again but

1871
01:16:53,030 --> 01:16:51,179
never say never but uh you know she's

1872
01:16:54,590 --> 01:16:53,040
absolutely perfect she's literally the

1873
01:16:56,750 --> 01:16:54,600
piece of me that's always been missing

1874
01:16:58,910 --> 01:16:56,760
since childhood I was planning my

1875
01:17:01,370 --> 01:16:58,920
wedding when I was six years old I heard

1876
01:17:04,010 --> 01:17:01,380
the Carpenters We've Only Just Begun and

1877
01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:04,020
it just come out and I bought the 45 and

1878
01:17:07,550 --> 01:17:06,000
I made my mom sit down and listen to it

1879
01:17:08,570 --> 01:17:07,560
and I said they're going to play that at

1880
01:17:10,729 --> 01:17:08,580
my wedding

1881
01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:10,739
six years old and she said well you got

1882
01:17:15,910 --> 01:17:12,080
a few years

1883
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:20,090
I'm so excited

1884
01:17:25,070 --> 01:17:22,790
yeah oh you tell me I'm glowing you're

1885
01:17:26,630 --> 01:17:25,080
glowing oh my gosh I am so happy for you

1886
01:17:30,770 --> 01:17:26,640
I

1887
01:17:33,470 --> 01:17:30,780
notable noticeable difference in my

1888
01:17:35,330 --> 01:17:33,480
parents but but yeah we've got somebody

1889
01:17:37,490 --> 01:17:35,340
the lead chief of first floor audio is

1890
01:17:39,530 --> 01:17:37,500
going to do the music Cisco bardock's

1891
01:17:41,450 --> 01:17:39,540
gonna design the flowers uh she wanted

1892
01:17:43,370 --> 01:17:41,460
black bouquet we figured out how to do

1893
01:17:45,290 --> 01:17:43,380
that and I'm gonna have black candles

1894
01:17:48,430 --> 01:17:45,300
it's it's gonna be the creepiest most

1895
01:17:51,709 --> 01:17:48,440
beautiful wedding you've ever seen

1896
01:17:54,110 --> 01:17:51,719
oh I cannot I really can't I'm so

1897
01:17:55,850 --> 01:17:54,120
excited for you Steve I really am well

1898
01:17:57,530 --> 01:17:55,860
thank you so much again and thanks for

1899
01:17:59,570 --> 01:17:57,540
all the love and the shared excitement

1900
01:18:01,729 --> 01:17:59,580
stuff I just feel the love off everybody

1901
01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:01,739
and if you're not if you haven't

1902
01:18:06,890 --> 01:18:03,120
listened to my channels please come

1903
01:18:08,750 --> 01:18:06,900
subscribe because I I love to uh to to

1904
01:18:11,390 --> 01:18:08,760
meet the people get out there I do I go

1905
01:18:13,610 --> 01:18:11,400
do bait greats and uh have coffee with

1906
01:18:16,130 --> 01:18:13,620
folks I've had people come and take me

1907
01:18:17,990 --> 01:18:16,140
to lunch and uh I've got some uh

1908
01:18:20,450 --> 01:18:18,000
personal appearances planned and things

1909
01:18:24,290 --> 01:18:20,460
so come see me I like to meet my my

1910
01:18:28,790 --> 01:18:26,630
so that's so and again thank you so much

1911
01:18:31,430 --> 01:18:28,800
and I hope you feel better

1912
01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:31,440
oh that it's I've kind of forgotten

1913
01:18:34,430 --> 01:18:33,120
about it and through the excitement of

1914
01:18:36,649 --> 01:18:34,440
talking and stuff it'll hurt when I get

1915
01:18:38,930 --> 01:18:36,659
off here but I'm gonna go take care of

1916
01:18:40,669 --> 01:18:38,940
it but thanks thanks again for uh

1917
01:18:42,169 --> 01:18:40,679
inviting me on and I look forward to the

1918
01:18:44,570 --> 01:18:42,179
next time

1919
01:18:49,430 --> 01:18:44,580
have a good night everybody in that

1920
01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:51,229
bye

1921
01:18:56,450 --> 01:18:54,480
all right everyone what a great show and

1922
01:18:58,010 --> 01:18:56,460
thank you all for staying up and staying

1923
01:18:59,810 --> 01:18:58,020
here with me

1924
01:19:02,450 --> 01:18:59,820
um thank you again to my guest Steve

1925
01:19:05,149 --> 01:19:02,460
Stockton and I will see you next week

1926
01:19:08,270 --> 01:19:05,159
please remember to like share and

1927
01:19:10,669 --> 01:19:08,280
subscribe and again give me a second

1928
01:19:13,010 --> 01:19:10,679
like I said a while back I am running my

1929
01:19:14,810 --> 01:19:13,020
own show so it takes me a second and

1930
01:19:17,689 --> 01:19:14,820
hopefully I do this right all right

1931
01:19:22,910 --> 01:19:17,699
everyone have a good night bye

1932
01:19:45,850 --> 01:19:43,010
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